brutalbrutus
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They have to make a new mold, im guessing, to make E anodes. Those aren't cheap and they have been making a lot of new molds recently...
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[MVP] MVP Disc Sports (Official Thread) (Part III)
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Toro71
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I hear you. For me, I putt with such a spread out fan grip, that the rim config of the putter is more of a secondary concern. It matters, but it would have to be something sort of odd to bother me. (And maybe the Spin will be that odd, I don't know.)
Rochound
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Anyone know the eta for firm/hard electron Ions?
MikeTheBlueCow
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New announcements 5/16/2016
Defy, Nitro, Octane release 5/27
Video of 4 new 23mm drivers Energy, Nitro, Octane, Catalyst.
Defy, Nitro, Octane release 5/27
Video of 4 new 23mm drivers Energy, Nitro, Octane, Catalyst.
brutalbrutus
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Going to order some nitros 4 sho. Holler if anyone wants in on the fun. I take care of my preorder peeps 
defy will be fun to try and might as well pickup some dope SE stamps to sell/throw. Breaking in photons isnt super easy might be nice to bag both we will seeeeee.
Still need to check out the plasma theory too.
defy will be fun to try and might as well pickup some dope SE stamps to sell/throw. Breaking in photons isnt super easy might be nice to bag both we will seeeeee. Still need to check out the plasma theory too.
The 23mm class cores are deeper than typical MVP drivers to afford more glide for distance, and feature a nice dome not typically seen in MVP drivers. From its shape to its weight distribution, the 23mm class is built for distance.
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Octane looks super domey on the website. ZAM says it's a different core than the Nitro as well.The 23mm class cores are deeper than typical MVP drivers to afford more glide for distance, and feature a nice dome not typically seen in MVP drivers. From its shape to its weight distribution, the 23mm class is built for distance.
Is it typical for the cores to be different within the same class? Maybe it's because of how different the rim angles have to be?
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Some classes have multiple cores while others have a single one. I cant keep up nor do i even know what those are these days lol.
Domey MVPs are OK. Not a fan of volts at all though with dome but my buddy loves them. These have my interest for sure. Probably get a good mix of heavy and lighter wts
Domey MVPs are OK. Not a fan of volts at all though with dome but my buddy loves them. These have my interest for sure. Probably get a good mix of heavy and lighter wts
MikeTheBlueCow
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How long before they release the Energy and Catalyst? My current set of distance drivers are in need of replacement so these 4 coming out this year is good timing for me, and I need the Nitro and Octane now but I'd like to get the Catalyst and Energy soon enough... are we going to have to wait a month? 2 months?
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The 23mm class cores are deeper than typical MVP drivers to afford more glide for distance, and feature a nice dome not typically seen in MVP drivers. From its shape to its weight distribution, the 23mm class is built for distance.
Interesting. Domey, glidey MVP... :\ We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
Based on the flight charts in the video (terrible idea, I know) it looks like there will be a similar gap between the Octane and the Nitro to what there is between the Wave and the Photon. I know they are claiming the gap isn't that wide, but I think I'll be waiting on the Axiom tweener mold, or at least some reviews before ponying up my cash this time...
MikeTheBlueCow
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Yeah, I'm okay with dome, it seems almost necessary for high speed high turn drivers. The Octane looks more domey than the orbital does, on the website at least. I've never had one but I've seen people say they think the orbital has big dome, which is why I mention it. Octane isn't even the most understable in the class, I wonder if the Catalyst will have more dome.
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Orbital is flat its just the rounded shoulder and very low PLH which give it sort of a domey profile. All of the many ive had were flat flight plates though.
The proton photons dont really even have "dome" but the raise is there vs flat neutrons. Same with plasma volts not really super dome like some protons i received from MVP direct a few orders ago. New run greens were most domey of all 10. Seems like they have been playing with dome for sure. Wasn't random as colors all were the same plh/shape. Pretty cool.
The proton photons dont really even have "dome" but the raise is there vs flat neutrons. Same with plasma volts not really super dome like some protons i received from MVP direct a few orders ago. New run greens were most domey of all 10. Seems like they have been playing with dome for sure. Wasn't random as colors all were the same plh/shape. Pretty cool.
hugheshilton
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So the pics are all Neutron plastic. Can we assume that's what the initial release will be in then? I like dome in distance drivers; as people say, it seems to give them a little extra glide. My Sirius Scorpius has a nice pop top dome and it's one of the longest discs I've ever thrown (when I throw it well that is). So it looks like (and I'm hoping) these initial 2 are sort of MVP's Star Destroyer/Champ Tern type discs. I'd say this is a great choice for the initial release since those are 2 of the most popular slots in the bags of a lot of players (at least for the intermediate and up arms).
Someone measured a bunch of Star Destroyers on here with calipers a while back and they were all right about 2.3 cm (PDGA sample was probably DX or mis-measured). I believe the Prodigy drivers are also 2.3 cm. It's a pretty popular size with a lot of players for max distance drivers. I do wonder whether MVP will do 2.45 cm at some point to compete with the Boss/Nuke/etc. or whether they'll stop at 2.3.
Someone measured a bunch of Star Destroyers on here with calipers a while back and they were all right about 2.3 cm (PDGA sample was probably DX or mis-measured). I believe the Prodigy drivers are also 2.3 cm. It's a pretty popular size with a lot of players for max distance drivers. I do wonder whether MVP will do 2.45 cm at some point to compete with the Boss/Nuke/etc. or whether they'll stop at 2.3.
... will debut in grippy Neutron plastic...players have waited for years for this class to arrive, as it represents our maximum speed class available under PDGA guidelines.
MikeTheBlueCow
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I saw someone mention that elsewhere so I looked up the PDGA tech standards. I found it says the max rim width is 2.6cm. I did not read the entire thing though; is there a reason why manufacturers can't make a 2.6cm wide rimmed disc, such as another measurement that is limiting that?
hugheshilton
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That's a good question. Lots of manufacturers make 2.5 cm discs (Boss, Nuke, etc.), but not too many make 2.6 cm (I think Salient's first disc might have been a wide diameter 2.6 cm disc if memory serves). I'm really not sure why other than the fact that a lot of people can't even grip 2.5 cm discs effectively. There are also rules about the slope angle and sharpness, but I assume you could get around those and still be within guidelines. I really don't think there are any PDGA guidelines to prevent MVP from creating a 2.45 cm speed class unless their 2.3 cm mold really does produce 2.4 cm rim width discs, and they're afraid of going too large and not being approved. Seems like an outside chance though. There is also the weight ratio rule, although I can't see how that would prevent a faster disc given all the bubble technology out there.
Toro71
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I'm curious to see, but I'm not really sure I'll get these up to speed anyway.
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