American Disc Golf Tour

[ZAMson]

The "youtube backpack" comment was a little out of line...

Hippie engineering 2.0
they need to come back after some psychedelic vision quests

 

[AndyJB]

Hey Andy how much Salient merch did you purchase? I'm guessing more than nothing...

Well lets see...
-19 Salient Liberty baskets
-every single one of their discs
-two hats
-two backpacks
-pair of shoes

But yeah, I must just be a troll right?

 

[Ballingerj44]

"We have ESPN commercials, we have commercials that we have cut…This is the full-blown televised event. This isn't a YouTube, iPhone, backpack thing."

Should we be offended at SmashBoxx??? hahah. Good thing I have thick skin. There is so much I would love to say, but I am just gonna sit on my hands and keep my mouth shut.

I will say this, I think that whatever they show, will probably look good if not great. When you put almost 6 figures into something like this with a professional production company, it should. I am curious as to what this big secret thing that has NEVER been done is. My guess is live drone coverage. If I am right, I win a lollipop.

My question is sustainability. What IF the big sponsors don't come running? They can't exactly afford to do this year after year until they do. Oh, that's right... our fault.

And I TRULY hope they do succeed. Because I am right in line to be one of the people that benefits from more eyeballs on Disc Golf. If sponsors come running, I am going to be there with my hand out as well from all the dollars flying in. opcorn:

All I could do was think about smashbox through the whole article. The difference is you're trying to make a long term business, where they seem to think get rich quick is the way to go. Plus we like you guys. Can't say the same for a company I don't know one person who enjoys them.

 

[chevis]

FREE BEER* in just a half hour
who's getting in line now?



*while supplies last

 

[AndyJB]

I seriously need to calm down after reading that. Im so mad I am literally shaking.

3 years ago, when I started a thread about how they had counteracted my not even very megative review of the Antidote with multiple positive reviews from the same IP Address you all called me a paranoid idiot and told me I took reviews too seriously. It got landfilled even after the ****ing owner of Infinite ****ing Discs confirmed what I was saying. I seriously got verbally torn apart for it. Then when I decided ti give them a second chance, I got torn apart again.

So I get why they are how they are. The internet is a fickle place that loves to tear people down way more than trying to build them up. But to stand there and aggorantly lie and say that virtually none of their critics have even dealt with them is ****ing bull****. I have email AND text messaging proof that I and my club tried to deal with them privately, out of the public eye. Yet they refused and then blocked MY ENTIRE ****ING CLUB because they sold us **** baskets.

**** these guys and **** the American Disc Golf Tour. They are crooks and con artists and deserve to be forever banned from disc golf.

 

[ChrisWoj]

I have a PhD in Molecular Genetics, did research on chromosome segregation errors, the kinds that lead to Down Syndrome, and on telomere maintenance, thought to play a role in cancer prevention and aging. PhDs don't run around calling themselves Dr. It just doesn't happen, at least in BioMedicine. You hear lots of Professor, but the only people who call us Dr. are MDs. Frankly, it is almost a badge of honor to skip the I'm a Doctor thing. The culture litterally forbids students working to get PhDs from calling their mentors Dr. You are considered coworkers, fellows so to speak. Obviously, I can't speak for everyone, but every time I've heard a PhD call themselves a Dr. they worked in some minor field and almost never did any research. The research part is really what gives credibility by my experience.

MDs are called Dr. for a reason. They are taking other people's health and lives into their hands. They must have both credibility, and the trust of their patients. The MD tradition started because of that, and personally, I think it is appropriate. In one sense, you are setting researchers apart from MDs, one does important work, but the other does important work on people. That was how it was explained to me and my fellow classmates thirty years ago when I got my PhD. BTW - does Kilgus have small hands....

Love this post. I wouldn't waste a post on this if we had a "like" function. But love this post.

 

[bradharris]

I seriously need to calm down after reading that. Im so mad I am literally shaking.

3 years ago, when I started a thread about how they had counteracted my not even very megative review of the Antidote with multiple positive reviews from the same IP Address you all called me a paranoid idiot and told me I took reviews too seriously. It got landfilled even after the ****ing owner of Infinite ****ing Discs confirmed what I was saying. I seriously got verbally torn apart for it. Then when I decided ti give them a second chance, I got torn apart again.

So I get why they are how they are. The internet is a fickle place that loves to tear people down way more than trying to build them up. But to stand there and aggorantly lie and say that virtually none of their critics have even dealt with them is ****ing bull****. I have email AND text messaging proof that I and my club tried to deal with them privately, out of the public eye. Yet they refused and then blocked MY ENTIRE ****ING CLUB because they sold us **** baskets.

**** these guys and **** the American Disc Golf Tour. They are crooks and con artists and deserve to be forever banned from disc golf.

It's just more classic Salient deflection. Rather than admitting they made some mistakes and taking responsibility, they think it's easier just to claim that the complaints come from people who have never been customers. In some cases that's true. In others it's not. But Salient specializes in half truths.

 

[onemilemore]

It's just more classic Salient deflection. Rather than admitting they made some mistakes and taking responsibility, they think it's easier just to claim that the complaints come from people who have never been customers. In some cases that's true. In others it's not. But Salient specializes in half truths.

Yep. Andy, you're in that 5 percent that has dealt with them.

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has jumped on this yet: Apparently the only threshold for moving up to ESPN2 is production quality, not number of views on the live stream. That is...interesting.

Additionally, thanks to everyone who has been reading. I worked my ass off on this article and I am glad it is in front of some eyeballs. :thmbup:

 

[ZAMson]

Yep. Andy, you're in that 5 percent that has dealt with them.

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has jumped on this yet: Apparently the only threshold for moving up to ESPN2 is production quality, not number of views on the live stream. That is...interesting.

Additionally, thanks to everyone who has been reading. I worked my ass off on this article and I am glad it is in front of some eyeballs. :thmbup:

ADGT's biggest impact will be this story, cuz finally there's really a story in disc golf. Glad you were here for the actual interesting thing in The Sport's entire history.

 

[juju]

Anyone else hoping that someone hits a ace on the car hole and there is controversy with ADGT not following through with their commitment? I could see this playing out.

 

[rhatton1]

Since he's not actually playing that would be unlikely.

Like that would stop him claiming it

"hey guys, I got an ace on the Jeep hole!"

"but you weren't even playing"

" yes I was, the PDGA spies messed with our website and took me off. Look, they also substituted an incorrect grammatical version of the tee sign to make us look even more of a joke - the cunning swine, the establishment are trying to take us down!"

"umm, ok"

"i'm deleting your comment"

"but, but wuh? I'm talking? You can't delete my words?"

"Deleted"

 

[brutalbrutus]

DO they actually win the Jeep? Or is it one of those "cheap" leases?...

 

[ZAMson]

Anyone else hoping that someone hits a ace on the car hole and there is controversy with ADGT not following through with their commitment? I could see this playing out.

Costco'd some lotion specifically for that. :thmbup:

No. I'm not all that hung up on Typogate/Grammargate nor do I wish for anything to go horribly wrong. Do you?

 

[lyleoross]

DO they actually win the Jeep? Or is it one of those "cheap" leases?...

And does the jeep have matchbox written on the bottom?

 

[brutalbrutus]

^yea I doubt they could afford Hotwheels..

 

[ZAMson]

^yea I doubt they could afford Hotwheels..

They could get about 200 cars on a badass track with loops and jumps and boosters solely from Goodpasture's entry

 

[brutalbrutus]

Im sure that money was spent on something within minutes of receiving...

 

[juju]

No. I'm not all that hung up on Typogate/Grammargate nor do I wish for anything to go horribly wrong. Do you?

Kinda. They shady AF.

 

[Pbmercil]

Anyone else hoping that someone hits a ace on the car hole and there is controversy with ADGT not following through with their commitment? I could see this playing out.

I don't think that is all that likely. I think it has been mention somewhere in this thread, but "hole in one insurance" as it is called, isn't all that expensive. If someone does manage to hit a ace on that hole it won't actually cost the ADGT the full cost of the jeep.

 

[JC17393]

Yep. Andy, you're in that 5 percent that has dealt with them.

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has jumped on this yet: Apparently the only threshold for moving up to ESPN2 is production quality, not number of views on the live stream. That is...interesting.

Additionally, thanks to everyone who has been reading. I worked my ass off on this article and I am glad it is in front of some eyeballs. :thmbup:

I'd wager it's more BS on their part, unless they (Salient/ADGT) have already committed to paying for the ESPN2 air time themselves provided the show meets ESPN's standards for production quality. There's absolutely zero chance that the powers that be in Bristol are going to put a two hour show (or even a condensed 30 minute version) on their air without someone else footing the bill. Without minimum viewership numbers on the stream, they're not going to be able to sell it to their own advertisers, thus it will be on Salient/ADGT to find the funding.

I'd also wager that if the show ever did make it to ESPN2 air, it would be a random late night slot like 2am on a Sunday morning. They're not pre-empting re-runs of PTI or whatever other talking-head shouting-match shows they're making now.