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[MVP] The MVP Spin is the Comet of putters..
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wims
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MJ doesn't strike me as a person who slaps
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Then he should give them light noogies.
Skamanda
Double Eagle Member
How's the Spin compare to the Fierce? A couple backyard tosses seem like it's a little hair more stable. Does that hold up over time?
Wait wait wait...I said the APX was the Comet of putters ON POST #6 OF THIS THREAD! Over FOUR years ago! You were all blah blah blah Spin Spin Spin. Now Amanda shows up and you are "Oh, you're right. It's the APX." :|
I hate this place.
I also hate the Spin. Everyone should throw their Spin's in the garbage and spam Discraft with social media posts until they run the Soft X APX again.
Skamanda
Double Eagle Member
Why don't you like the Spin?
Friday night... hoo boy I'm in on this with both thumbs... quoted in its entirety:
Since a selective cut and paste removed the comment "some people I trust have that opinion.." of course your crotchey ass is on that list and a few of my equally old friends.. one of em cracked his 15 yr old aviar recently and that's what he went back to.
I support your rant. Honestly I haven't bagged my spin in awhile, I've got a glitch, and a nice light uplink for x comet duties... and a yellow flat top comet. I'm packing heat yo.
You are probably extra angry after your esp apex just arrived.
Actually I mostly bump this thread to annoy discerdoo so thanks
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I got one at a MVP circuit event a while back and it was too stable for what I wanted to do with it. I kinda have that 86 Softie/APX standard for a finesse putter and it just wasn't there. I had the same sort of issue with the Gateway Magic; a lot of people like them and call them "flippy" but to me it just doesn't glide like I want it to. At my arm speed I end up throwing a Spin or a Magic like a Wizard, and at that point you have to ask yourself "why am I not just throwing Wizards?"
That's my throw, though. A lot of people seem to like the Spin and the Magic, and I'm just a guy who is not very good at disc golf.
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Hmmmm I don't see 3P in the mvp thread and based on beard length I think this is a classic case of "I like to throw nose up and the disc doesn't turn". A lot of classic discers suffer from this.. MVP discs don't flip over, barring a Paradox. Well OK they do but not in the normal way. Nose down or nothing. If you want gyro action don't nose up it.
I should pull out my proton Spin and give it a whirl.. tourneys coming.. I can play it off against the glitch. Hmmm thanks for the reminder.
Ooooooh Psparkle Spin, PSoft Ohm, NS Glitch... I smell a round.. I can't waste my time with you schmucks I GGGT...
I should pull out my proton Spin and give it a whirl.. tourneys coming.. I can play it off against the glitch. Hmmm thanks for the reminder.
Ooooooh Psparkle Spin, PSoft Ohm, NS Glitch... I smell a round.. I can't waste my time with you schmucks I GGGT...
If you're gyro-curious and you like neutral throwing putters with great glide, do yourself a favor and try an Ohm.
Skamanda
Double Eagle Member
Ok, but that's not what I asked...
Oh, my bad. Spins are gross and I've never thrown a Fierce.
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Nose-up can be a part of it, but actually to me I thinks it's a generational aspect of the discs. The first time I remember standing around with a disc grumbling "exactly how is this a turnover disc" was the Meteor Ace Race. After wandering around with it at an Ace Race hyzering all over the place I had one in the bag on the course and threw one off the tee; OK, throw it low and hard like a driver and it turns over. IMO that makes it very limited; I can't really range one on a turnover because I have to throw it too hard to range it very well.Hmmmm I don't see 3P in the mvp thread and based on beard length I think this is a classic case of "I like to throw nose up and the disc doesn't turn". A lot of classic discers suffer from this.. MVP discs don't flip over, barring a Paradox. Well OK they do but not in the normal way. Nose down or nothing. If you want gyro action don't nose up it.
I should pull out my proton Spin and give it a whirl.. tourneys coming.. I can play it off against the glitch. Hmmm thanks for the reminder.
Ooooooh Psparkle Spin, PSoft Ohm, NS Glitch... I smell a round.. I can't waste my time with you schmucks I GGGT...
So then this whole new "modern" era of neutral to turnover discs has this same sort of issue for me. I don't want to throw it that low and hard. I want to slow down and throw it smoother. That's how you threw an 86 Softie. That's how you throw a Comet. That's how you throw an APX. Yeah, you can get more nose up as part of that, but the "throw smooth" is more what is in my mind. Throw a Magic or a Spin smooth and they go "Plop" and land 100' in front of you.
It's really fundamental to how I choose discs. I throw Rocs over Buzzz because I can range a Roc and I can't range a Buzzz. Not the way I throw I can't.
Obviously most players who started playing after say 2002 when discs like the Beast were out so they started with small-diameter high-speed drivers probably prefer the Buzzz. I could learn to throw a Buzzz if I had to I guess. I don't have to so I'm not going to.
Since trying to range is my #1 issue with these discs and being able to range an approach shot is pretty much essential in your putter, I'm going to hate all these throw-hard putters that I can't range. So I hate the Spin.
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Skamanda
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That's one of the things I've been hating about the Fierce. I'm a surgeon with upshots, with an APX (or I was when I was throwing them regularly). I'm constantly blowing by my target with Fierces, at the power level that "feels" right...
My friend got gifted a fierce a couple others and a 165g spin when his aviar cracked. He's the one using the apx. None of the rest turn enough.
when his aviar cracked. He's the one using the apx. None of the rest turn enough.
I'm sure it can be done (other people do it all the time) but it would take an adjustment for me to range those sorts of discs, and I play disc golf for fun and don't want to work that hard at it. To me it's easier just to go the other way and go more overstable/less glide with a KC Pro Aviar or Wizard if I have to throw the disc that hard; I know how to range an Aviar. That's generally what I do.
But I'm old and I play disc golf badly so what I do shouldn't be taken as advice.
Skamanda
Double Eagle Member
To answer my own question: the Spin and the Fierce fly identically, from the circle, to at least 250 feet. Choose the one that fits your hand best.
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Since this jacked thread is woken up again, there is a new king of "flies like a Comet" putters. Get you self an inner core. Probably the most neutral putter I have thrown. At 5000' flat throw they go straight with maybe the slightest track right.
Fierce is probably the opposite of what I want a putter to feel like, have yet to try a spin for a flippy putter. Now that my FH is finally coming along I don't find myself needing too flippy of a throwing putter anymore.
Fierce is probably the opposite of what I want a putter to feel like, have yet to try a spin for a flippy putter. Now that my FH is finally coming along I don't find myself needing too flippy of a throwing putter anymore.
Skamanda
Double Eagle Member
So I've been throwing and putting with the Spin a lot lately, as I rework some stuff for next season. No, it is not the Comet of putters, at least not in electron (the R2 feels like crap in my hand, so I haven't thrown it). It lacks the fade of a Comet. It's somewhere between a Meteor and a Sol. Once turned, it's not coming back unless it's flying so high it stalls.
It's functionally identical to a Fierce, so if I keep putting this well with it, it'll be a great alternative to paying the marquee player tax.
For throwing, the Watt has kicked all my premium plastic Fierces out of my bag - it's actually a lot more like a Comet than the Spin, though it's still not quite right for that description. The shapes are too sharp, and it doesn't flex like a Comet.
It's functionally identical to a Fierce, so if I keep putting this well with it, it'll be a great alternative to paying the marquee player tax.
For throwing, the Watt has kicked all my premium plastic Fierces out of my bag - it's actually a lot more like a Comet than the Spin, though it's still not quite right for that description. The shapes are too sharp, and it doesn't flex like a Comet.
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