[Discraft] The Best Challenger Plastic

[cfair]

Have you ever thrown one? They are not that much overstable. And I have played rounds with pros who putt exclusively with CryZstal Challengers. They are awesome dude!

I have a 4 year old beat silly crystal that is still more stable than my ProDs. However my ProD are broken in, and ProD will lose a lot more stability that Crystal. So that is probably where I am getting it from. But Crystal, no matter how old, still masks OAT like Vibram's do.

 

[ManU]

Yep, both challengers and apx's were molded in hard x. With the xhallenger I've found noticible difference between the top/bottom stamp and the circle stamp.

what kind of difference?

I have a circle stamp "hard" elite x chall

I gotta say that I don't really like it

 

[emook]

thats the difference. people don't like them.

 

[thrembo]

I have a 4 year old beat silly crystal that is still more stable than my ProDs. However my ProD are broken in, and ProD will lose a lot more stability that Crystal. So that is probably where I am getting it from. But Crystal, no matter how old, still masks OAT like Vibram's do.

Now I get where you are coming from! You want a Challenger that will beat in to stable, and you are right, CryZtals would be more difficult to do that with. But I like the CryZtals for putting, and like the fact that they won't change.

Like anything else, its a matter of personal prefference and what you intend to do with them.

 

[BENFTS]

Soft Challenger is by far the best one of them all IMO. When baskets are on a hill or if I need a wind resistant putter this is my go to disc. 250' and less will be a challenger almost for sure. As for Challengers being to to overstable for putting, I can't say that's the case. tons of people use them all the time and I used them for years till I fell in love with the Magic.

 

[thrembo]

I like the soft ones too, but they are very chippy. Every time you hit basket or chains, it seems to take a little piece of it away! Wich is one of the reasons That I like the CryZtal ones, they are extremely durable.

 

[Ty_Ty]

I agree...I like the druability of my FLX challengers...the pro d i have been trying is nice, but the FLX just feel great in my hand...I just traded for a crystal challenger...cant wait to get it in and test it....def gonna have to find someway to get it dyed though.

 

[craftsman]

what kind of difference?

I have a circle stamp "hard" elite x chall

I gotta say that I don't really like it

The circles feel like the are less dense, have a higher shoulder, less gummyness, and perhaps a lil more turn earlier in flight.

 

[ManU]

interesting
I thought my circle stamp one felt very dense

I think I'll just stay away from the hard X challs

 

[craftsman]

If you ever make it across the embassador, ill hook you up with a good one

 

[craftsman]

Fwiw, of hard x's, I have;

Circles- yellow and blue

Top/bottoms- yellow and red tyedye, stacks of red and blue (including fr's), and I had some blacks.

 

[UncleSweat]

FLX is the best....

...for the winter

 

[chris717]

Cryztal is the best plastic for the challenger, they will last a long long time.
If your the type of person that likes to buy only 1 putter a have it fly the same and not change it's flight pattern, There's nothing better

 

[slicemaster]

^^^^+1

 

[tarel]

crystal just got one 172g blows my mind away

 

[Sid the Kid]

I used to love the firm Elite X Challenger. Definately my longest driving putter. Sucks they went oop.

 

[craftsman]

Cryztal is the best plastic for the challenger, they will last a long long time.
If your the type of person that likes to buy only 1 putter a have it fly the same and not change it's flight pattern, There's nothing better

How long have you had yours?

 

[Dude]

I have a newer Cryztal Z with a big stamp in the middle so it's pretty concave (like a Yeti Pro.) It's a money upshot disc. It'll hold whatever line and it has a LOT of glide. I don't care for Challengers otherwise as they're too overstable for my putting needs. So this one has my vote!

 

[ManU]

for those of you who like the FR X Chall I threw one up in my trade thread

 

[Ty_Ty]

I know this is a dead thread the past few months, but its my thread and I will revitilize it lol.
I have tested several veraitions of the Challenger the past two months and here is my overall experience with each.

Pro-D: Nice grip, holds a great line, only con is the knicks and dings it acquires durning practice.

Soft X: Throws well grips the chains, just not a fan of the soft x plastic

FLX: Great grip, consistant feel, great glide, and easy drives. One of my Favs.

Midnight Z: Amazing all around disc, putt/app/drives. Holds amazing lines, great feel

Crystal Z: Same as Midnight Z just straighter with more glide.

Crystal FLX: On the way....traded the midnight z for it.

I use to putt on a bit of a hyzer with the flxs to catch the rightside to middle chains, but since I started using the Z's I have been able to throw flat at the pole with confidence. The Flx would either drift up or drop down when throw flat depending on the wind.