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Hornets Nest Park - Old Layout

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curmudgeonDwindle
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 44.7 years 20 played 18 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Disc Golf School 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Sep 27, 2013 Played the course:5+ times

Other Thoughts:

Course is in what appears to be a regional level park featuring rolling piedmont terrain with mature canopy. As a typical park in this area, it is 'buffered' and it also features a long entrance road, along which facilities are developed. Select clearing and then grassing has occurred around the more traditional park activities and the course's front 9. Park is about 150 acres. Course is, in the main, sequestered from other park activities and appeared well maintained at the time of play. Equipment, tees, amenities, and signage are above average, although vandalism appears on some shared 'Web' layout tees.

This is the first time this reviewer has played the course in nearly a decade, so some comments on the course's condition and development will be in order. Since that time, the course has undergone a major revision, substantially or completely changing almost 1/3 of the course. The course's essential character has remained the same and has softened gracefully. The biggest difference in play value is the 'forgiveness' of the roughs, which were downright penal, even for minor errors, 10 years ago. Course is significantly more 'playable' today, meaning that chances for recovery while scrambling have greatly improved all over the course. Also notable, aside from the 'Web' layout (the subject of a future review), is that many trees have since matured and clear cuts have begun to refill the open canopy spaces. The result is an additional need for accuracy, as some route options are not feasible anymore and other key windows have tightened up. There is also more shade, which yields a more consistent 'feel' throughout the course (and cooler play time during summer months). Also, before this reviewer played, the turf was recently mown, opening up the roller game. Significant play affecting wind still is a factor on this course, especially on the front and less so on the back. Interior paths are well worn and an appropriate width for fairly comfortable single file bi-directional foot traffic. Way finding was easy although some transitions are extended and longish. Few play affecting drainage problems are evident, despite the course's proximity to a large creek.

Hornets' Nest is almost perfectly balanced between the extremes of tight woods and 'open' parkland, which greatly adds to its playability, 'fun' and fairness. Course will richly reward straight flat shots of up to 300', with even more scoring opportunities if one can extend that to 350'. Average hole length for the 18 is less than 350', which means that only average to good power is needed to score well, even though long throwers will always get more scoring chances. Nine holes are less than 300'.

Elevation differences between the tee and the target are fairly subtle at Hornet's Nest. There are no tough uphill tugs or majestic downhill pumps. Perhaps the greatest elevation difference one traverses from tee to green, on any one hole, is 2 meters, with the exceptions of #15 & #16.

From tee to green, the golfer most commonly approaches a slightly elevated green (12 holes). Everywhere on Hornets' Nest, but especially on high handicap holes, there is a very strong emphasis on placement and distance control, as it is nearly impossible to overpower these holes and the results of many conservative plays will not even yield an 'open' line to the target. Reviewer appreciated the relatively limited ob areas, all of which are well enough away from play, clearly visible and/or intuitive (if not explicitly marked). 7 holes are completely blind from the tee and 3 of these are the top 3 handicap holes; their landing zones are well apparent from the tee. All fairways are well defined and approach an almost standardized width. The routing's flow is intuitive enough. On 2 of the 3 three 'road holes', stable counter spin shots are favored with regard to landing ob.

Greens do not feel as potentially punishing as some other Charlotte courses. 2/3 of the course features greens that are between 0% and 3% average slope and all are generally unobstructed within 10 meters. Don't worry though - there are ample chances to get stuck behind a tree at Hornets' Nest. Greens are either neutral or generally more receptive to the fade of counter spin tee shots/approaches.

Perhaps the most controversial issue regarding Hornet's Nest would be the 'elevated' baskets (also present elsewhere in Charlotte). Reviewer really appreciates these experiments; this sport is not yet so hidebound, that such elements be automatically disregarded on some 'formal disc golf' basis. Reviewer also appreciates this trend toward more specifically constructed features in disc golf, but the articulation of these specific elements is generally crude and begs for improvement. The current appearance is likely due to budgetary and time constraints; they function well enough however. A direct comparative example is available at Hornet's Nest. If you visit, please compare the masonry erosion protection wall around #5's pin with the elevated target feature on #'8's green and decide for yourself which solution is more 'professional' and 'safety conscious'.

#9 is a very playful hole, but seemingly out of character with the rest of the course, which might lead some to the term 'contrived', but a regular player of Hornets' Nest might quickly learn to develop a new type of putt to add to his/her 'bag of tricks', specifically to deal with an 'elevated' green's unique 'topography'. It is for the reader to decide the value of this trade-off.

#14 is certainly one of the top-ten 'short' holes (<275') in the world, a super-fine division between the limits of human skill and the grace of luck.

Perhaps a response to 'fairness' criticisms, #15 now features an added fairway route to the left, a fairly labor intensive method to silence the naysayers, but it adds at least one more 'important' decision to the round. Before this change, this reviewer felt #15 was one of the toughest tee shots in the city for a hole of this length (320'). Eminently reachable from the tee, it is/was one of the few holes that forced a player to get the disc relatively high into the air and exercise flawless fade control through a typically narrow fairway over that entire distance. This is tough for either spin, as extreme throwing angles relative to horizontal will not work well with these constraints. High speed discs do not work so well either.

Hornet's Nest is a solid course, with no terrible glaring defects. The technical skills and power required to play well here, while not especially deep or varied, can easily lead to success on most any other course in the sport.

UPDATE SECTION

This review update concerns the Web layout at Hornets Nest Park and based on this layout's ambition alone, I feel a higher rating is in order for the entire facility. In my earlier review, I more or less ignored the Web layout, as it is nearly a different course entire. This merits a separate treatment. Let's start with the technical details...

Course has 10 par 4's, 3 par 5's and 5 par 3's and the average hole distance is just under 510'; 13 holes are 480' or better. This is much more in keeping with a standard golf course in every respect, but most importantly strategically. While this may seem obvious to some, it's important to keep in mind this course is a fairly early example of this type of disc golf course and overall is still fairly rare in the disc golf world. When Hornets Nest opened in '96, 6000'+ permanent courses were somewhat rare and now this average distance is a standard expectation for advanced and above level golfers. The Web layout offers some new expectations for those with the fever, and thus we have strategy working on a few different levels here...

Regarding how the course plays, much of my earlier review talking points still applies, but is amplified. Straight flat shots up to 350' are the most richly rewarded play over the entire course. Placement of tee shots is crucial to scoring, as 7 holes are un-cuttable doglegs. Note that there are no holes with distances between 320' and 486' and how that might affect scoring chances for those with above average power. Of the straight shot shape par 4's, all have various restrictions, obstacles, height restrictions, incredible length, etc., which further blunt a power player's advantage off the tee. From a competitive standpoint, this enables a wider range of players to be in the hunt. Noodle-armed control players don't lose heart!

Course overall is generally balanced regarding spin advantage with a slight advantage going to stable counter spin shot shapes from the tee and approach. This advantage is most pronounced on the front 9 and shifts to a stable clock spin advantage on the back 9. As with the Nest, a few more greens are counter spin receptive than clock, but most are neutral. As the Web is younger and also receives less play, the roughs are generally thicker and more penal. Your ability to scramble and recover will depend a lot on both your humility and the breadth of your 'bag-of-tricks'.

Naturally, with all these long holes most holes are blind or semi-blind. Web first timers may have some difficulty off the tee, as many of the best landing spots are not immediately apparent or obvious from same. #17, in particular, has a devious visual perception trick, due in part to the slightly depressed tee box. If you have poor depth perception, I advise pre-walking the fairway here for a better look before you throw. Web first timers would also be well advised to print a course map as way finding isn't quite as obvious as with the Nest, and some transitions are long and a bit awkward/non-intuitive (#13-14).

Specific holes worth mentioning:
#4 gets a lot of flak for being too close to the baseball field, which is a valid, but there's nothing to really be done about it. There's no such thing as a 'perfect course'. Well, maybe in heaven.... Otherwise, I feel it gets a bit overlooked for its cleverness. At about 550', it's in range for a legitimate putting eagle for those with exceptional power from the tee, BUT, the tee is slightly depressed and pocketed, hiding the wind direction and speed from the golfer. There are also both height and width restrictions off the tee; these factors effectively nullify any 'big air' type of attempt. In addition, the drop-off-and-roll-away slope with ob behind make the approach dicey for everyone, especially clock spin dominant players. This hole epitomizes the risk/reward concept from the approach, as a routine birdie (for the good to gifted) can easily turn into a bogie or worse.

#16 in my opinion, easily the most difficult hole on the course, is an absolute nightmare for a counter spin dominant player. Not just because of its length, constricted fairway and harshly penal rough throughout, but because these factors are compounded by the left-to-right downward slope, the ridgeback green (which repels fast shots from all directions) WITH an elevated basket and its place late in the round. I've personally carded many relatively simple 3's on the Nest's #16, but can scarcely imagine that result on the Web's. Good thing it's a par 5. Think again if you believe this designer doesn't have a mean streak.

Since this is an overlay design on a popular course, conflicts and confusion may arise between players of different tracks, but how is this different from any other busy course? On crowded park days, some areas of the course are a bit close to other park activities/goers, which may be an irritation to golfers, but the trade-off is more exposure to the uninitiated. I still feel #9 is a 'sore thumb' hole, out of character for the rest of the course and I like to think the designer built this hole on purpose with the express objective of provoking controversy and irritation. That's fine. #18's tee box is blind to the benches and tee boxes for #'s 1& 10, and although it's a short hole, this is a conflict for a conservative play on the most congested area of the course.

The Web most closely adheres to the strategic and penal design schools and while some may feel the dearth of heroic opportunities here a negative, for most 'normal' golfers it's more than challenge enough. Played well, in the manner intended, the Web sharpens the golfing tools which will bring the most success and enjoyment in the long term: mid-range consistency, course management and a solid mental game (solid putting is not really course dependant). Most of my negative criticisms address minor points, as in the main, the Web is a solid offering that aspiring designers and golfers alike can go to school on.


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#19325
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.9 years 351 played 178 reviews
5.00 star(s)

Webtastic! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 4, 2012 Played the course:once

Pros:

The Web layout is an absolutely sick course. I wish it were my home course. I enjoyed getting my @ss kicked. We played the longest layout measuring at 9,120 feet with a par of 70. The Nest layout is shorter but it will test your game. This is no walk in the park.

The front of the course is drastically different from the back. The front is a little more open with water and road out of bounds coming into play. The back is just flat out wicked playing in the thick woods. This course is designed for the best of the best and it requires every shot.

The option to play 2 different layouts and mix up the variety is awesome.

The tee pads and baskets were great!

This course has some fantastic true par 4 & 5 holes. You need an all around game to birdie them. Mistakes lead to big numbers.

Hole #13 "The Guantlet" is a very memorable hole. You must put it on a rope to get the birdie. It's just as easy to get a 4 as it is to 2 it.

Several elevated baskets add difficulty.

There is risk and reward all over the course.

Hole #16 is one of the nastiest holes I have played. Measuring in a 712 feet it's a monster. You have to play down a huge tunnel then turn hard left up the hill. The green area is nasty too. Stan, you are sick and twisted!

I absolutely love the Island hole to finish this course on the Web layout.

The park features restrooms, playground, lighted ball fields, lighted tennis courts, BMX racing track, picnic shelters, fishing pond, basketball courts, and walking trails.

Cons:

Like most Charlotte courses this one could use updated signs on every tee.

The only real con I could see is navigation. Print a map. I had an awesome guide who plays the course often. I did not have to walk to find anything. It was VERY enjoyable. The maps on this site are very accurate.

Other Thoughts:

I spent 2 days playing 9 courses in Charlotte. Their disc golf courses are very difficult. I was very impressed with the overall design of each course. What an awesome trip when it was snowing back in Chicago.

I'm always looking for feeback. If you vote not helpful I'd love to hear why.
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xcrunner134life
Experience: 16.2 years 81 played 14 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 31, 2012 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This course will test your skills. There are holes that play in the open and holes that will make you hit windows in the woods. You'll need to be able to make a lot of different shots if you get off the fairway in the woods.
Lots of length to the holes. Shorter holes either have O.B. close by, or you have to make the perfect shot to catch a birdie.
There are trash cans and benches on almost every hole.
Holes 1 and 10 are right next to each other, so you can start on the back or the front 9.

Cons:

Some of the signs are a little old and have faded.
Could use a few more signs up to tell you where to go next. There is no sign that helps you get from hole 1 to hole 2. The signs that are around the course are also showing some age.

Other Thoughts:

There's a reason this is going to be the signature course for the 2012 Worlds. It's pretty awesome, and at the same time frustrating because you know you can shoot well here, but then you slam your disc into a tree and take a bogey (if not worse).
I haven't played the long course yet (Charlotte's Web), but I plan to the next time I head down to Charlotte.
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JBryant
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.1 years 107 played 46 reviews
4.50 star(s)

A Fairytale of a course 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 17, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Hornets Nest and in particular the Charlotte's Web layout that we played is a nasty wooded, take it to you type of course. It demands consistent play and punishes errant tee shots.

Elevation, OB, woods, tight fairways: It has pretty much everything that will challenge you. This is why a lot of quality disc golfers live in the Charlotte area. They get to play these types of courses year round!

Like I mentioned earlier, The Charlotte's Web layout is quite different from the original Hornet's Nest.- The Web is longer and more difficult. There were longer tees on some holes, longer pin placements on some holes, and sometimes BOTH. The Web smacks you in the face with seemingly impossible fairways that force players out of their comfort zone. More experienced players will find this Par 70, 9000'+ layout a solid challenge. Less experienced players beware.

Amenities:
Good long concrete tees with a grippy surface.
Color coded baskets although a map would be helpful.
Park restrooms and scenery.

Cons:

Charlotte's Web tee signs need to be updated. They are falling apart compared to their Hornet's Nest counterparts. Signs would help newer players and non locals navigate better.Although each hole for both the Nest and the Web have signs, it's not always immediately clear what's going on with the multiple baskets, tees, etc.

Other Thoughts:

One amazing course that probably would punish me more often than not. BUT I can say I shot an 82 for the one and only time playing from the longs. I'll take that score.
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lmwolfso
Experience: 15 played 1 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Crazy Nest! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 1, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

The course has a variety of open and closed holes. The length, while challenging, is one of the best features of the course. It also has decent signage, great baskets, and concrete pads. The Web alternative is significantly more difficult, featuring tighter, longer fairways.

Cons:

The only cons are that it can get crowded on weekends and evenings. The maps are ok, but they need to be updated to reflect newer changes to the course.
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Toro71
Experience: 14 years 76 played 11 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Queen City's Crown Jewel 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 15, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Design
-- I love this type of course, schizophrenic, with some tight technical woods and some more open bomber holes. You'll need about every disc for this course. Has all the elements of a Stan McDaniel challenge: thoughtful distance, clever use of OB, tight-line shot-making, tricky basket locations. You know you're playing one of his courses when you have more than one birdie putt that turns into a 5, or like you go OB twice on one hole (looking at you, 7!)

Maybe 5-9 signature holes here, take your pick, I feel like 7 is the one, but 12 works. 15 may be the most intimidating tee shot in NC. I 5 that thing like every time. The basket placement on 5 makes it one of the toughest par 3s in town.

The two layouts are great, with the Web having more of a location golf feel, more par 4s and more demanding lines to hit from hand to landing.

--Just a pretty course, especially at the right time of year. Though some of the holes are situated near other park-going activities (like active picnic/bar-b-q areas,) this is one of the most scenic layouts in town.

--A Charlotte standard, thousands of rounds have been played here, so the rough is reasonable, the course is beat-in, but nowhere near beat-up, if you take my meaning.

--Restrooms, parking, water right next to #1 and #10 (which are back-to-back.) Web 18's island green is right there, too, and is the ipso facto practice basket.

Cons:

--On busy park days, like big weekends/holidays, there may be some interference from other park-goers on the last half of the front 9.

--It is deceptively easy to blow up on a round, and score high. I've always felt like the Nest layout can play much harder than it seems. Be prepared.

--As noted in other reviews, a few holes (like 6, especially) offers a player the best chance they'll have in Charlotte to hit a moving vehicle.

--Navigation can be a bear if you don't know the course, especially if you're giving the Web layout a go. Map's a must, or glom on with a local. Couple of long transitions, particularly between 1 and 2. You can, if you're there at the right time, take in a little BMX action on that walk, if you're so inclined.

Other Thoughts:

Arguably Charlotte's best all around disc golfing, though I know that's a bold statement. I'd personallly give this one a 5 if there werent' a couple of occasions where other park-goers really screwed up rounds by walking out on a fairway and picking up a disc out of curiosity, like they couldn't figure out where it came from.

So many top players from this area have cut their teeth on this course. Pretty layout, not a bad hole, two layouts. I want to go out there right now! If you travel to the area, and really want to get your butt handed to you, Nevin is about 7 minutes away from Hornet's Nest, making for a great, if tiring, day of golf.
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denny ritner
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 26 years 170 played 115 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Put Hornet's Nest on your wish list! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jun 21, 2011 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

With the Web overlap course, this park provides a very complete test of golf for all skill levels. There is great variety in hole shapes and looks and some of the most beautiful fairways anywhere. The front nine is fairly open and "park-like" and then loops back to the parking lot. The back nine, in particular, provides a fun, unique challenge with many gorgeous shots under an awesome tree canopy.

Hole 10 is a nice, uphill left to right shot. Halfway up the fairway is a picture postcard view of the basket framed by a gorgeous tree canopy. This view sets the tone for one of the best nine holes in disc golf.

Hole 12 is among my "best of the best" disc golf holes anywhere. (although it's a par 4, not a par 5 as listed)

"The Gauntlet" is a great little hole that provides nice contrast and adds a lot to the pucker factor. (Hint: throw a tomahawk)

Hole 15 is a very strong par 3 that can be birdied with a great drive, but can also result in disaster. It's one of the scariest tee shots in disc golf.

Hornet's Nest has many dynamic putting "greens" that create the potential for three putts. Most notable is hole 9. It is a very short, straightforward hole that has been diabolically augmented with a very tall, raised basket. The terms risk/reward apply to this hole like few others in the sport.

Cons:

The navigation is a little tricky from hole 1 to hole 2, could use a couple more signs.

Holes 6 & 7 run down the busy park road and create a high likelihood that cars will be hit.

Having Web hole 15 play over two holes creates a long, wonky hole and then creates confusing routing. Web 18 is an island green in the middle of the parking lot that is a huge safety issue. The course(s) are great; it really is a letdown to see the Web end on a hokey, unsafe note.

Other Thoughts:

Hornet's Nest is a great part of the awesome Charlotte area disc golf scene. At present, North Carolina doesn't have any courses on the DGCR top ten list, but overall I don't see any city that stacks up with Charlotte in terms of the number and quality of disc golf options within a short drive.

Don't be a dirty discer, leave the course cleaner than the way you found it.
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Jukeshoe
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 14.7 years 316 played 268 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Don't Get Stung! 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 31, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

- Hornets Nest has a (mostly) park-style front nine, while the back nine works its way through much tougher wooded areas. Elevation changes are fairly slight throughout, but all elevation was used to its full potential, especially with the artificially elevated baskets. Worn, established fairways with minimal schule throughout. Although a "park" vibe definitely exists in places, much of the back nine offers a more intimate and removed feel.
- The variety of shots here captured my attention. Tightly wooded, long bombers, a few ace runs, and a mixture of open and wooded keeps each hole fresh and exciting.
- The Web is the longer, more difficult layout. Some Web holes have longer tees, a second longer pin placement, a mix of both, or share the same tee and basket. The Web offers long, improbably shaped fairway designs that force players to shoot for defined landing zones in order to set up properly for the next shot. More experienced players will find this Par 70, 9000'+ layout a solid challenge.
- Above average amenities. Good long concrete tees, color-coded baskets (to distinguish The Web layout from the Nest's), restrooms, trashcans/recycling, and benches all located in a multi-purpose park.

Cons:

- One or two spots might suffer from "crowded park" syndrome, although nothing stood out as a particular problem.
- Some scattered trash; again, this is being pretty nit-picky. The remains of some barb-wire fencing exists on #3.
- The main con to this course is the navigaton. Although each hole for both the Nest and the Web have signs, it's not always immediately clear what's going on with the multiple baskets, tees, etc. The Web's signs generally have less information than the Nest's.

Other Thoughts:

- My rating takes into account both the Web and the Nest layouts.
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mashnut
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 22.2 years 831 played 777 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Great challenge 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Apr 17, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

The course plays through a park setting for the front 9 with some minor elevation and a mix of wooded and more open shots. The back 9 is heavily wooded and offers tighter lines and more seclusion. The park doesn't have big elevation changes, but the ones that are there are used exceptionally to create challenge, especially around baskets. There is a great mix of lengths on both layouts, from ace runs to holes that are long enough to make you consider a driver and tight enough to make you consider a putter.

Both layouts felt very balanced between right and left turning shots, with a few straight shots required. You'll need some serious shot shaping skills to score well here, along with creative putting and get out of trouble shots. If you miss your line, especially on the back 9, there's often enough trouble to add strokes to your score.

The tees are concrete, and are in nice shape. The baskets are discatchers with some wear and age showing, but they still catch fine. It's a cool idea to color code the baskets when there are two installed on a hole, yellow for the original layout and white for the web layout. The signage is pretty good, with hole layout and distance, the original course is better marked with more consistent signage.

Cons:

With two layouts that overlap, things can get a little confusing. Some holes have different tees, some have different baskets, some have both, and some are exactly the same. The end of the course is particularly confusing, as a couple holes on the original course are combined to make one web hole. I pulled up the map on my phone, I strongly recommend this your first time through.

The front 9 shares space with other park uses, we played on a weekend and had several holes with picnickers in play. There are also several shots bringing roads and walking paths into play, on a busy day there's enough traffic on the park roads to make this a safety concern.

Other Thoughts:

This course was a blast to play. The original layout is challenging with tons of variety, but approachable for less skilled players. The web layout is very tough, and will make the best players work to stay on the fairways and execute the tight lines. Because of this, there's something for just about everyone here, true beginners will find it tough and punishing but everyone else can find something here appropriate to their skill level.
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roadtrip
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 28.9 years 200 played 23 reviews
4.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 20, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Perfect course. Beautiful all year long. Great variety. Friendly enough locals.
Also - a bonus hole after 9 and 18. Web 18 is a super shortie out of the woods on the left, as you walk back to the parking lot. Plays to the practice basket. A nice tie-breaker ace-run

Cons:

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Other Thoughts:

Variety (shots) - 4.5/5 - The only thing it's lacking are those severe up/downhill holes. I'm not a big fan of those (I suck at them). Front 9 is more open, back 9 is woodsy.

Variety (length) 5/5 - The nest is 17/18 ridiculously long, the original has a few ace runs sprinkled in and some otherwise short but tight shots (10, 14)

Beauty - 5/5 - all year

Trackability - 4/5 signs everywhere, and 1 and 10 both start out of the parking lot. It could be tricky after 9 (follow trail out then walk back to lot) and after 1 (past the bmx track on your right, then basketball court also on your right)

Lost Disc Hazard - 3.5/5 - Woods everywhere on the back 9 but it's not as undergrown as Nevin. Just don't throw green discs in the spring and you're fine.

Vibe - 5/5 - Locals are nice. Secluded manicured hike on back 9. It's sketchy when you drive in and there are a million people barbecuing, but they stay mostly out of your way and they're only really around when it's a perfect weather weekend afternoon.

Safety - 4/5 - Again, sometimes it feels sketchy as you drive in or as you park, but you never feel anything out of place while you're playing.

31/35 = 4.42 = 4.5
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Sabooo
Experience: 19 played 5 reviews
4.00 star(s)

So close to perfect 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Mar 8, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

There are so many things going for this course. From Big to small:

The park itself is a treat. There are clean public restrooms available, along with drinking fountains. Parking is plentiful. The park is fairly clean, with some trash cans visible on the holes that are in the shared spaces of the park. The terrain on the course is good, with enough soil compaction to expose roots, but not make them a tripping hazard for the most part.

The overall course layout is well thought out, with a variety of terrain, elevation, and use of woods. 1, 10, and 18 all play within a short walk of the parking lot/restrooms. There are some tighter, more technical holes, and some "grip it and rip it" wide open fairways. There are a few holes with "artificially" elevated baskets that add a unique challenge to play. I especially enjoyed the back half of the course, and I thought the holes were challenging without being ludicrously so.

I really appreciated the though that went into the dog-leg holes, with 250' or so to the bend, and then a strong mid-range shot to the tee. These distances just felt 'right' to me, and i felt like I was left with a good "golf" shot on every hole.

The tee pads are in great shape, as are the baskets.

The presence of benches on many holes was a plus, as were the bag hooks at the tees.

I found the players to be very polite and respectful to each other. I showed up alone and grabbed a tag-along spot with a few others. On several instances, we had a two-some catch up to our (admittedly too large) group, and there was no hesitation on letting the others play through. This is important because it's obvious based on the crowd that the word is out on how good of a course this is.


Cons:

Fairly long walk between 1 and 2. I'd love to see arrow signs in the area of the baskets directing players to the next tee.(apologies if it's there and I missed it.) The map and my local guides made navigation less painful than it would have otherwise been.

I know this is a matter of personal preference, but to me the elevated basket thing gets old pretty fast. I would prefer a dogleg or distance instead of a short hole to a basket that plays 12' higher than the fairway in front of it. (#9 I believe?)

There are a few holes that play along the park roads on one side, and as noted in other reviews, the park is quite busy. One needs to stay aware of the traffic to avoid mishaps.


I've love to see more trash cans in the woods. There are quite a few cans and bottles thrown about, and I'm happy to help clean up if there's an obvious receptacle to put these in. The trash cans that were there were heaped and overflowing in some cases.


Other Thoughts:

I love the fact that this course and Nevin are only a few miles apart. While Nevin is challenging and forces your best on nearly every throw, Hornet's Nest is a bit more forgiving, allowing a poor throw here and there to be saved by taking a chance. The two courses are fantastic counterparts to one another. Add in Renny, and you just might have the perfect disc golf weekend. If I only have time to play one of them, Hornet's Nest will be my choice.

I had a fantastic experience and enjoyed every throw today. I find myself wishing I could pack this course up and take it back to PA with me. Since I cant, I'm putting this course on my must play list for my next trip to the Charlotte area.
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bikinjack
Bronze level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.1 years 119 played 23 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Charlotte's Web and the Nest 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 20, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

Great variety is on offer both in terms of length and direction of fairways and shots, there are also two layouts, offering a very challenging experience (The Web) and one that, while it's still challenging (Original), doesn't just beat you down. Quality golf shots abound. If you throw well here, you will be rewarded, if you don't execute quality shots, you will be punished.

The front nine plays through the more open parts of the park, while the back plays more in the woods. Terrific use of the available land and terrain has been made, and the course flows well from hole to hole. You don't look around and wonder, why didn't they put a basket (or tee) over there?

Holes 7 and 9 stand out in my mind as signature holes on the front nine, along with 12 and 14 on the back nine, Hole 7 is a par 4 beauty which runs alongside the park road, which is OB, while hole 9 offers a Stan McDaniel signature elevated basket, creating real risk/reward decisions to be made. Hole 12 is a wonderful multi-throw hole with well defined landing zones, and hole 14 is the infamous Gauntlet, which is as tight as its name implies, yet still offering fair lines to hit.

Another thing I like about the Nest is that there are almost always other folks out playing, but the course itself (unlike the park in general) never seems too crowded. You can almost always show up and find somebody that wants company for a round.

Cons:

Not a lot, but here goes, the Nest can get crowded. Not the disc golf course so much, but the park in general, especially on weekends, and on the front nine. There are many things going on in Hornet's Nest park, and consequently, lots of folks around. If you're road tripping, I would recommend not playing the Nest on a nice weekend afternoon, because the park will be crowded between tennis players, BMX racers, and pic-nic'ers. Weekdays and mornings are the best times to play here to avoid crowds of park goers.

Some folks won't like the elevated baskets. I personally enjoy the scoring challenge they provide, and the risk/reward of do I go for it or do I play it safe.

Navigation (for the Web, mainly) can be little difficult for the navigationally challenged, so if there's any chance that's you, print out a map for your first trip here.

The back nine can get pretty muddy and slick after a bout of wet weather.

Other Thoughts:

There are trash cans and benches, and even a few pic-nic tables, all around the course. There is a restroom facility by the parking lot, adjacent to holes 1, 10, and 18 (Web). There is a water fountain next to the restrooms.

There are basketball courts, tennis courts, a BMX track, lots of pic-nic shelters, softball fields, and a playground at Hornet's Nest to go along with the disc golf course.

There are multiple stores and restaurants along Sunset Road, about a mile south of the park.

All the tees are concrete, all the baskets are DISCatchers. The white baskets are for the Web layout, and the yellow ones are for the shorter original Nest layout, while some holes share a yellow basket. Some of the holes share a tee, but use different baskets, while some share a basket and use different tees, and some are exactly the same for both layouts, while one hole (#11) is completely different for the two layouts. So again, I'll say, it may be a good idea to print a map, or recruit a guide for your first trip here, but it's not really that bad to navigate.

This is a great course, and truly destination worthy, especially when combined with all the other great courses in the Charlotte metro area.
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Dahlemj24
Experience: 18 years 10 played 10 reviews
4.50 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:May 26, 2010 Played the course:once

Pros:

Absolutely great! Every hole I feel had it's own challenges. For playing a lot of courses this one just absolutely rocked me! The fairways were tight and technical. Some baskets were raised in interesting places. I loved all the distance.

Cons:

Obviously since I've only played this once navigation was a bit of a problem for me. I had read that there were 24 holes here and I don't know if I played all of them of missed some. I wish I would've had a guide, but I was one of the only people out playing that day.

Other Thoughts:

Would love another chance to play here.
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culinarywiz
Gold level trusted reviewer
Experience: 35.7 years 309 played 67 reviews
4.00 star(s)

Two Courses in one 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Feb 5, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

Love both layouts - long and short

Balanced angles and length's

Sexy park

Unique pin placements

Nice concrete pads and amenities

Cons:

A little monotonous at times

Some minor backtracking involved

Other Thoughts:

Good times had by all.

One of the best attributes of this course is that you can choose what you are into each round. If you are with beginners or just want a quick or casual round then the Hornets Nest layout is for you. If you are advanced or want to push your skills, the Web layout will test you.

The original layout, though somewhat short, has plenty of style. I played the Charlottes Web layout, and I can say without doubt, it was challenging and demanding. This was my first time in Charlotte and I came from Nevin to this course. Nevin truly beat me down. I was hoping the Web layout here was going to be more fair. It was. I felt that while the layout called for precision and length, there were clear and achievable fairways.

Some of the holes are joint Nest and Web holes. The Web baskets, with the exception of 17/18 I believe, are white, while the Nest pins are typical yellow Innova. Many of the pins are perched on hills or pedistals to create risk/reward shots either off the tee or in the putting circle. There is a sweet hole in the back nine that can easily be reached with a putter, yet it is pearched on a mound and then elevated another 4 feet by a post. You want to run at it, but if over thrown even slightly, you have a challenging come back putt. Sweet.

I found hole 18 to be totally out of place for the Web. It is a very short hole placed within a grass circle of probably 25 foot diameter. If you miss the circle, re-drive. If you miss your second attempt at the circle, you putt from a drop zone for a 5. I guess in theory that makes up for the ease of the hole, but I would argue that most folks playing this layout could easily land the circle. I almost aced it. Its really just a long putt.

Folks in Charlotte clearly like it long and tight. This course calls for precision and length. You have to be able to control a driver, or you have no chance at par on most holes. I say that because using mids to compensate for fade, wont generally get you the 600+ feet you need for par.

I will be back for this one. It is a true destination course.
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BobbyCorn
Experience: 15.4 years 28 played 28 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Excellent job! 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Updated: Played on:Jan 23, 2011 Played the course:2-4 times

Pros:

This course was great! All the things you could want on a course such as tee signs, concrete pads, nice baskets, well manicured fairways and tee areas.

The two sets of tees separate the newer plays from the more skilled players and the course plays well for both. This is one of the most fun disc golf experiences I have had in a long time.

Cons:

none.

Other Thoughts:

Great job guys! Best course in Charlotte!
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bettsjc
Silver level trusted reviewer
Experience: 15.2 years 39 played 30 reviews
4.00 star(s)

The Nest 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 19, 2011 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This review is for the regular Hornet's Nest layout. Most of this review could be correct for the longer Charlotte's Web layout, but not for sure.

Hornet's Nest Park DGC offers quite the challange. A technical course with length, the Nest forces accurate shots, leaving distance in the dust.

The course is equipped with DisCatchers, two layers of chains and deep basket trays. Yellows for the Nest, White for the web. There are a couple of exceptions where a basket is shared by both layouts, and will be colored yellow.

Tee pads are brushed concrete, and of sufficient size. Grippy, even when damp.

Tee signs do a very good job depicting the hole, along with distance and par. Web tee signs are a little more thrown together, hand drawn on plain white board(probably years ago) and are fading. Signs are quite accurate. Hole 12s tee sign has two pin placements, make sure you are shooting at the long basket, and not the one straight ahead as this placement is no longer used.

There is no lack of variety on this course. Elevation is used quite well to add difficulty to most of the course, along with a few level ones. Holes also have a varying degree of difficulty when it comes to tightness of fairways. Most are fair, maybe two holes are extremely tight, but offer a unique look. The back 9 contends with alot of woods, where most of the front 9 is more open with use of OB.

This course does a figure 8. Front 9 and back 9 both start and finish at the parking lot, making it very easy to just play 9 on a work break, or play some additional holes after a round. This also helps on busier days when it can be easier to begin on the back 9.

Navigation isn't too difficult. The hardest hole to find is hole 2, use walking path to walk beyond BMX track, hole 2 is about 200' passed track. Hole 17 treks beyond Web #17 tee box. Tee signs seem to be mixmatched here, Nest uses the white faded sign and the Web uses the nice sign.

Cons:

There are a few cons, which are not always cons, but worth noting.

With the overlay of two courses-in-one its always good to be aware of other groups behind and in front of you. There is slight crossover with Nest #17 and Web #16, Nest #18 and Web #17. Courteous play and proper ettiquite will keep this from being an issue.

No practice basket, although Web #18 basket is close enough to use if its not interfering with players.

Hornet's Nest Park is fairly croweded on most weekends in the warmer season. BMX track by hole 1, and tennis courts by hole 9 keep the parking lot busy. Field used for hole 2 is usually occupied by some sort of team sport practice which will come into play.

Course gets mightly slick after a rain on the back 9. The front 9 floods easily.

A few blind holes(typical to this area) make it a good idea to walk up and make sure you aren't driving up on others.

Other Thoughts:

Hornet's Nest's pros way outweigh the cons. I would suggest playing this course during the week to avoid a crowded course and park.

This course offers something for many experience levels and can be fun for a vast amount of DGers. Not exactly the "beginner" course.

I'm not a huge fan of the front 9. The back 9 is significantly more wooded than the front 9. I prefer playing natural holes which can be punishing because of landscape or trees, rather than open holes with OB in the way of roadways.

Favorite Holes: 12, 15

Least favorite: 7, 4, 2
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optidiscic
Diamond level trusted reviewer
Experience: 21.9 years 156 played 149 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Lot's of Stings but Plenty of Honey 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 2, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

An absolute test of skill from beginning to end. Requiring different aspects of a complete game to endure. Combines tight wooded fairway golf with open placement golf in a variety of lengths and looks. The combination of line shaping and strategic landing zones combine to make a cerebral test as much as skills challenge. I played the Web layout and it truly was a world class course that provided a variety of difficulties with an astounding mixture of unique looks. Forces precision due to the impenetratable NC woods which do not allow cut throughs or recovery shots. Requires length as it plays over 9000 ft. OOB will mitigate the temptation to go reckless on many of the more open holes.
Has some interesting short holes like #9 ace run to an extreme high boy basket with a flat elevated green to land if you miss(one of the funnest holes I've seen and strategy seems to be to aim for the bank and skip up and play for the 2 as ace runs will most likely require a risky comeback putt/even though short I could see 2s and 6s on this same hole on a card) 14s tight tree hallway (including a tree planted in concrete to thwart cheap flicks LOL...as if there were not enough trees out here) and the finishing skip shot off the access road to an island green. (Old School and fun)
I also really enjoyed the bigness of the course and the chance to drive multiple times on each hole. The long horseshoe of hole #3, the strategic placement shots especially on #1(miss the initial gap and theres no way into the woods but to backtrack), #12 (punitive false fairway and all), The fast but fair greens of 4,5,and 16 which allow for lay-ups or conservative misses with an extra stroke rather than forcing a multitude of difficult putts and cheaply inflating your score like another infamous Charlotte course.
I encountered challenge from true doglegs, long alleys through forrests, subtle elevation. water, OOB, and pure distance but none of these in any obnoxious overkill. A very good blend that never felt repetitve. I loved the more secluded wooded back 9. I was in awe at the huge grassy fairways on parts of hole 12 and 17 that were like super highways through the woods. I can see why this course was the one most recommended to me by locals. The challenge is derived by long line shaping skill and strategy rather than just Big D and luck around the greens.
Friendly locals, solid tees, and bathrooms in a big clean park.

Cons:

It's not perfect. #8 is quite an elevated basket and not as much fun as 9 as your not really ace running for it off the tee. I am not a fan of playing near or over roads and there are 4 holes (5,6,7,18) that actually use the busy access road as an obstacle and in play.These same areas are in a very public area of the park that seemed to promote conflicts with picnic areas, barbecue pits, parking lots, baseball field, tennis courts etc. The shots are incredible in these areas it's just that you can't hide the fact that cars and people come into play too often. Luckily after hole 7 youre basically done with this mess. These more open holes balance out an otherwise very woodsy course but at a certain cost to safety and enjoyment. A few navigation issues but a map along with some patience and a first timer should be OK. It's a challenging course expect to shoot well over par especially if you are unfamiliar with basket locations your first time around. On a course this difficult I don't understand the need for so much manufactured OOB and Mandos but perhaps theres reasons I am not aware of. (seasonal flooding on #3?, safety concerns etc.)

Other Thoughts:

Provides enough fun to keep the grind at bay. One of the better courses I've played and a notch below Nevin in challenge and a Notch above Renny in fairness of play.
The web layout baskets are white and have a web on them. A few holes share baskets with different tees, a few have different baskets, a few play the same in both layouts. A few play completely different. A local guide is probably your best bet.
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Dwiggy444
Experience: 17.1 years 90 played 14 reviews
4.50 star(s)

A Jewel in the Queen City 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Jan 1, 2011 Played the course:once

Pros:

(this review is based primarily on the original course layout)
- Great variety of holes and shots required. Several extremely difficult technical shots through wooded fairways with tight lines, sometimes requiring precise placement in preparation for a second shot. But the course also has some longer, more open holes that allow you air it out a little. There's also a great mix of left and right turning holes, so the course doesn't favor any one particular style or skill set.
- Several memorable holes that would be a "signature hole" on any other course.  I especially liked holes 12-17 - an amazing stretch of tough, technical holes. There are also many picturesque greens, with several customized elevated baskets.
- Excellent use of the land. There are holes in the woods, holes that run along roads, a pin placed right in front of a pond and a variety of subtle elevation changes.
- Good tee signs, benches near most tees, and trash cans throughout the course. You can tell that the parks department and the local club invest lots of time to keep this course in great shape.

Cons:

- The overlaid course (the Web layout) can sometimes confuse first-timers because there are often multiple tees and baskets in play for each hole. But the course flow and signage are MUCH clearer than Rennaissance/Renny Gold.
- A couple of the gaps that you need to throw through are almost unfair (you have to throw through 6 foot gaps on back to back holes).
- Even with the nice elevated basket, hole 9 just seems too short and straight. It seems a little out of place on this course.

Other Thoughts:

After just one play, it's already one of my favorite courses ever. I can't wait to come back and play the Web layout (which looks incredibly difficult). It's an easy course to find in a large public park, so this course is a must play if you are in the Charlotte metro area.  
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coolhand
Experience: 23 played 23 reviews
4.00 star(s)

2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Dec 6, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

one of the reasons my friends and i take a trip to charlotte every year. fun course, but very challenging for me. i shoot better on renny gold than charlottes web for some reason. i still love to play it.

Cons:

it kicks my butt every time.
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terptwerp
Experience: 9 played 9 reviews
4.50 star(s)

Great Course With Variety 2+ years drive by

Reviewed: Played on:Oct 17, 2010 Played the course:5+ times

Pros:

This is the best course in the Charlotte area IMO. It will require all of the shots that you know to play it well (forehand, backhand, tomahawk...). There are open shots on most of the front 9 and fairly tight wooded shots on most of the back 9. Hole 12 is a signature hole (love it or hate it) that requires 2 great shots to have a chance at par.

Cons:

As mentioned before, the two elevated baskets on 8 & 9 should be resolved by making 9 longer, without the elevated basket.

The park can also be crowded with visitors getting in the way by playing soccer, cooking out and having kids playing on the fairways.

Other Thoughts:

I tend to play this course more than any other in Charlotte, due to the variety and fairness (it is somewhat difficult but more fair than Nevin or Reny). With the possible exception of Bracket's Bluff this is my favorite course that I have played.
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