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Lockport, NY

The Greens

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natureguy
Experience: 3 played 3 reviews
1.00 star(s)

Nice design on paper, but serious safety issues 2+ years

Reviewed: Played on:Aug 4, 2019 Played the course:once

Pros:

On paper, the course itself is nicely laid out. Nice tee pads. A nice variety of different challenging holes, some requiring finesse, and some requiring power throws.

Cons:

1.) It has lots of potential, but is so unsafe. This park is overgrown in poison ivy. For a significant portion of the population it can be life threatening. Even in the mowed, maintained portion of the park the trees are covered and surrounded by poison ivy 15 to 20 feet up their trunks. I first encountered it on the 1st hole when I hit a large tree on the fairway and my disc fell to the base of it, landing in a thicket of poison ivy. About a quarter of the holes are located on the escarpment section, of which most are literally built on a carpet of poison ivy. The trails between holes are just stomped down poison ivy plants. The fairways there are carpets of poison ivy. It isn't just IF you land off the fairways and in the rough, or out of bounds and in the thickets. Your disc WILL land in the poison ivy unless you get a hole in one. The trails between holes in the steep areas are dangerous. I maintain hiking trails in the woods for hiking organizations. The trails here would not meet federal and state minimum safety standards for back country hiking standards. They are too steep with too many loose rocks and stones. 2.) Single tee area - only one type of marked tee area. No multiple starting points per hole for different skill levels. As a novice I can not heave it full distance, I miss having marked shorter tee spots for different abilities. 3.) Negligible makings, signs and confusing to play on.No marking posts to find the tee pads from a distance. No labeling of the holes when you are on at the tees, just the hole number marked on the baskets. And it is difficult to tell which tee pad is for which baskets, since the course weaves around so much you are not sure which pad goes with with which basket, and sometimes there are clusters of tees and baskets very close together. No maps at the tees to show you where the basket is for that hole, and many of the baskets are not in your line of site. And the longer holes are too far away to easily pick out the basket when you tee off. No arrows pointing out the direction of the basket for that hole at that tee. No arrows directing you to the next hole. 4.) I understand this is a new course. Hopefully better trails, markings and such will be along soon, and multiple tee points clearly marked for differing abilities. Those problems can be solved with time and patience. But the poison ivy is a serious problem. It would take multiple train tank cars full of weedkiller and many rolls of landscape cloth to solve the safety problems. Hopefully the trails between holes will be made safer and more navigable. But it will takes years of monthly applications of vine killer to finally tame the severe poison ivy problem.

Other Thoughts:

This is not a course for novices. And it is not safe for anyone who reacts strongly to poison ivy. You will not avoid it no matter how good you are or how precise a thrower you are. Poison ivy is even at the base of some of the baskets. Only those with excellent footing and balance should try navigating the goat trails between holes on the steep escarpment portion.
I will avoid this course in the future.
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