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[Recommend] Need Help Discing Down!

thiswonisloaded

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Hey everyone,

I have been playing for around 2 years and I throw RHBH. My disc of choice is a star boss and I throw around 300-325. I realize that I do not have the arm speed or snap for that kind of disc yet. I'm looking to take disc golf more seriously so I want to disc down so that I can hopefully get my arm up to that boss level.

I am considering a teebird, eagle, firebird, or fl.

Are they good discs and what other suggestions would you guys have?
 
teebird is a solid choice.

i'd recommend an avenger or surge from discraft. surge is i think 1 speed rating above avenger. I'm a discraft guy if you can't tell...
 
teebird is what i'm leaning towards and I haven't gotten much time spent with discraft.

I bought an avenger last year and lost it in an extremely wooded course about a week after I purchased it :(
 
I played five years forehand, just started backhand this year due to back injury. I could snap a nuke forehand np. Now with backhand I can only get putters, mids, and fairway drivers up to speed.

The discs listed below have changed my game in less than a month.
I can throw em straight and flat. The numbers listed are ball park distance guess.
170-175 Putters: 250
165 ESP Buzz: 270
150 Star Leopard: 300

I am working my way up to 150 class speed 7 fairway drivers.
So far I can kinda get the speed on them, to get them to fly as their meant to.
 
Get a putter and a comet. After you are good at throwing these then consider a fairway driver.

Is there a definition of 'good' with a putter and comet? I.E. how far should I be throwing these before it's time to get a fairway driver?

I haven't thrown anything faster than a river for the past year and it's helped but I've been thinking of taking the Leo,River,Teebird out of my bag for the time being and playing with mids and putters but I'm not sure how long I should do this before putting the fairway's back in.

I don't get a lot of field work in. I'd rather just go play. I guess field work would help but I just don't really have a good place for it. However I'm in walking distance to a course
 
Get something you won't want to "disc back up" from. I ditched a FLX Surge and Star Eagle to make myself throw my Striker and River more. I'm getting more distance than I ever had, and it's more accurate too.
 
OP: Start with a Leopard 150 DX. or a 150 DX teebird. But I think the Leopard would do a better job of showing you issues like OAT. Both good discs though.
 
I think I am going to go with the Eagle because the course I mostly play at doesnt have much room for straight drives and from what I read the teebird has straight drives and the Eagle is more controllable and can hold a pretty reliable flex shot.
 
Get a putter and a comet. After you are good at throwing these then consider a fairway driver.

This. Go with the putters you like and learn to throw it 250'. Then get the comet out to 300'. After that go for some of the flippier fairways (pro leo, X Cyclone, Mil Polaris LS).

Putter and Comet baby... putter and comet.
 
It looks like your picks (tb, ex, fl, fb) are pretty stable. Id suggest something a lil flippier so that you can get a full flight. Leopard, ols, x xl, clone, or gazelle imo would treat you a lil better.
 
Hey everyone,

I have been playing for around 2 years and I throw RHBH. My disc of choice is a star boss and I throw around 300-325. I realize that I do not have the arm speed or snap for that kind of disc yet. I'm looking to take disc golf more seriously so I want to disc down so that I can hopefully get my arm up to that boss level.

I am considering a teebird, eagle, firebird, or fl.

Are they good discs and what other suggestions would you guys have?

Truths about discing down:

Discing down will not get your "arm up to speed". (that phrase is misleading anyway when dealing with high speed drivers, it's about acceleration not speed)

Discing down can be used to clean up your release if you practice (i.e. in a field, 3-4x per week)

Discing down is not gonna do jack if all you do is take drivers out and play occasional casual rounds.

Discing down is not a magic cure-all.

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Take a video of you throwing. Compare it to videos of pros throwing, or post it on here. Then go from there.
 
He nailed it.

Teebird, Eagle and River. all very controllable, consistent and will teach you to get more snap on your drives


There are other discs that are good, but these three are great discs that glide and handle different lines well. I throw a River/Teebird combo and use the Teebirds in higher winds, or if I need more fade to hit a shot. Eagles can do whatever you want also. Plus all three come in different plastics so you can get the wear and feel you like. Pick one or two of them and you'll probably never look back.
 
Truths about discing down:

Discing down will not get your "arm up to speed". (that phrase is misleading anyway when dealing with high speed drivers, it's about acceleration not speed)

Discing down can be used to clean up your release if you practice (i.e. in a field, 3-4x per week)

Discing down is not gonna do jack if all you do is take drivers out and play occasional casual rounds.

Discing down is not a magic cure-all.

I understand that its not a magic cure to fix my drives. The reason why I want to disc down is so that I can work on form instead of just trying to bomb a high speed driver. I actually usually play about 3-4 times a week too so I put in enough time to get proper practice. Just looking for some advice from more experienced players.
 
It looks like your picks (tb, ex, fl, fb) are pretty stable. Id suggest something a lil flippier so that you can get a full flight. Leopard, ols, x xl, clone, or gazelle imo would treat you a lil better.

I've always thrown more stable to overstable discs. May I ask why throwing flipper discs is more helpful/better etc..?
 
I understand that its not a magic cure to fix my drives. The reason why I want to disc down is so that I can work on form instead of just trying to bomb a high speed driver. I actually usually play about 3-4 times a week too so I put in enough time to get proper practice. Just looking for some advice from more experienced players.

Excellent, that's a good attitude. With that in mind here's tips on how to properly disc down.

2-3 Field Practice sessions per week. Each one needs only to be 30-45min. Don't kill yourself the first day/week of this, and don't burn out.

If you continue to play courses, don't shoot for score. Just play to have fun and remember why you want to dedicate time to get better. It's too much to play competitively and do game-deconstructing practice at the same time. Just think of any athletic team, they hardcore build the team in the offseason and only tweak during the season...same reasons.

Start by warming up, throw 2-3 shots 50%, repeat for 60%, 70%, 80%. You don't really ever need to get to 100% full-power-blast-off at first. Look for the clean at lower power releases and then build on it.

I always suggest in the beginning take the run up out of it if you're looking to improve form on release. Run-ups are all about timing, and as much as they can help you they can hurt you ten times as much if you have bad timing. Chances are that once you improve your release form anyway you'll find your old run-up timing to be useless and it's easier to start from 0 with your new form than to try to salvage and modify what you were doing before.

Film yourself throwing 8-10 shots once every 2 weeks, then watch it back. This way you create a 'sync' between what you feel happening and what is actually happening in your throw. You'll likely be surprised at what you think you're doing vs what you're actually doing.

Good focal points for the first week of practice:

Where is your head when you reachback to throw?

What does your follow-through look like?

What position is your hand on your follow through?

How sore is your arm?

Final advice: take a video after your first week and review these questions, then compare it to a pro (or pros) who you'd like to model your game after. Figure out what's differing and then work on accomplishing the change step by step.
 
Hey everyone,

I have been playing for around 2 years and I throw RHBH. My disc of choice is a star boss and I throw around 300-325. I realize that I do not have the arm speed or snap for that kind of disc yet. I'm looking to take disc golf more seriously so I want to disc down so that I can hopefully get my arm up to that boss level.

I am considering a teebird, eagle, firebird, or fl.

Are they good discs and what other suggestions would you guys have?

Discing down is not just about throwing a smaller rim disc for a while, but developing what I call a 'fairway driver' section in your bag that covers between your mids and your distance drivers.

My suggestion is actually what I throw, a 11x cal Teebird. (trust me, new teebirds do NOT fly anything close to the older 11x teebirds), which is my middle stability, River for less stability, and 11x Firebird for more stability.

Play a round and keep note of the distance you throw them. Throw them until you are consistently geting them out there. A lot of people put distance numbers, like 300'-350'. I am not so much hung up on that number, but just being consistent and confident in getting it out there, even if it is only 270'-290'. Once you do this, I would suggest getting a Blizzard Champion Boss and Katana in the upper 130's, a Star Wraith in the low to mid 160's, and a Force. Once you are tagging out those Fairway Drivers, it makes the Distance Drivers that much easier. Your Star Wraith for a consistent, more controlled distance driver, The Boss and Katana for distance max, and the Force for your OS plastic on crazy wind days.

I know I am just promoting my bag to you, but I have had in m possession a LOT of discs. Now if you just play 1 course all the time, then you can focus your bag to that course, but if you play different courses, new courses, fairly often, then you need a balanced bag of different stabilities and distances. I see many players carry so many unnecessary discs, like one guy carried 4 putters, bt only used 2 of them, for example. Lighten your bag. Keep it at 15 discs or less. Use discs that are capable of multiple uses like rollers and for forehand shots. This makes the bag light, the shots as numerous as your imagination, and the fun factor as high as possible.

As far as throwing, in the words of Ben Hogan, when someone asked how did you get that swing?, He replied, "I found it in the dirt." Meaning he practiced until he got it. Same way, do not over work your arm, save it from injury, but find a field and throw. Keep doing until you like what you are seeing, then take notice to everything you are doing, and practice for that to be consistent and natural to you.
 

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