So I picked up 175g white and a 173g pink. I went directly to the field, temperature was mid 50s and windy (10-15mph). Unfortunately a storm moved through, making everything wet and dropping the temp. I got a handful of throws in when I could feel my hands, and another handful with not much feeling. So take this review with a grain of salt. Straight out of the box, I can tell the saint pro is slower than an escape or normal saint. It looks slow in the air, but started to show more glide the more throws with it if that makes sense. If thrown with just a touch of hyzer, they flipped flat, held a lazer, then hyzered out pretty hard. However, if thrown flat, it locked on a straight line for almost the entire flight before hyzering out. Thrown with a touch of anny, it made a nice s-curve shot. I did manage a few headwind shots, and the saint pro held up very well, not showing any turn, just showing less of a fade at the end. However, this is a very small sample size (30-40 throws maybe tops). The guy I play with also had an upper 160s saint pro, he throws with a bit more power than I do, and it performed similar for him. Initial impression: it will have a spot in the bag alongside the escapes. I am very interested in how it will break in, hoping it loses the lss before losing any hss.