Vision Quest Cedar, MN

[Aim For The Chains]

how many of these private type of courses are even in the top 20 where you need a $200 membership to play anytime you want? I don't play much in the winter at all which is the biggest thing for me. Its not really a "year" and wonder what it will look like in the winter.

 

[E_Rock25]

Aim the way I look at it the price will keep beginning players off the course and keep crowds at a minimum. One of the reasons I like disc golf over ball golf is the cost and I think if someone is going to play 12 to 15 times here a year $200 is well worth it. You could literally spend that much on one round of ball golf but that's one of the reasons I no longer play ball golf. Maybe someday we will have disc golf country club complexes... hahaha idk I say let's see if it works if there is enough demand for a course like this to pay all the bills to update and maintain is yet to be seen. The course is really really fun that's all I know.

 

[Aim For The Chains]

Yeah I totally agree with all of that and am not against pay for play at all.

You wouldn't hesitate to pay $20 here for a round regularly?

 

[timj5304]

I have 3 rounds on the course. I highly enjoy some of the gimmick type things that make you make a decision to go for it or just lay up and possibly save or lose strokes. I like holes like 9 that while being short that placement is key. Many holes on this course force you to use shots that are not rhbh in order to score best.

For me personally I like the idea of 200 per year if I owned this property. It will mainly keep people away from your property for the most part that will be on the disrespectful side of things(making disc charger signs, not throwing trash away, breaking course rules). I do not think this course was really meant to be a high traffic course as it's similar to brp being on private property but the difference is vision quest is on the property that the owner lives on while brp is not.

 

[E_Rock25]

Yeah I totally agree with all of that and am not against pay for play at all.

You wouldn't hesitate to pay $20 here for a round regularly?

I don't know if I'm ready to pay $20 for every round yet but I think that this is where the sport is heading and Vision Quest is kinda a test in my mind. BRP is awesome but a $5 a round almost anyone can afford to play. I help run a handy cap league and really like helping new players find the sport. There are times however that I just want to go out and throw and not wait at every tee or worry about taking a disc to the back of the head for some kid that doesn't know better. If I had a place that I knew I could throw a round on a really fun course and not have to wait or watch out for noobs I think between $10 and $20 is well spent. I probably won't be a member but that doesn't mean I wouldn't be willing to spend $20 a few times a year. I just don't think I would play the course more than 7 or 8 times a year.

 

[DinosaurThunder]

Still a little disappointed after the Majestic when they opened the course up for people to get their discs back it wasn't policed well and many were taken with others numbers on it. I heard in the first 30 min of it opening the amount of discs gone was ridiculous.

Fun course, great amenities, great people but I won't play again until the lost and found system is drastically improved.

 

[Broken Shoulder]

I thought some of the holes were a little bit poke and pray, but overall it's a nice course. Certainly not rhbh friendly, which felt kind of unique. You can tell there was a ton of work that went into it.

I won't pay for a membership, but that's mainly because of limited time to play. If I bought in I'd feel obligated to play there every round and avoid all the other courses in the area. Maybe if I was a single guy in my twenties without a house to take care of and other obligations...

 

[mrclc]

So there's no single-day pass options? Are out of towners doomed if we're just looking to play a one-time casual round?

 

[E_Rock25]

So there's no single-day pass options? Are out of towners doomed if we're just looking to play a one-time casual round?

At this point the answer is mostly yes. They have had a few days open to the public but they will be rare. They have also had a few local traveling league nights but that will only happen once or twice a year as well I suspect. Members can bring friends for the day and the friend has to pay for a day pass... not sure of the cost on that. Basically you have to know someone. Maybe if you contact them if you come to town they will let you come out and throw. I think they should try to work some sort of day pass but I don't think that is the idea behind the course.

 

[mrclc]

At this point the answer is mostly yes. They have had a few days open to the public but they will be rare. They have also had a few local traveling league nights but that will only happen once or twice a year as well I suspect. Members can bring friends for the day and the friend has to pay for a day pass... not sure of the cost on that. Basically you have to know someone. Maybe if you contact them if you come to town they will let you come out and throw. I think they should try to work some sort of day pass but I don't think that is the idea behind the course.

Interesting. I'm curious to see how well the country club model translates to DG.

 

[Horsman]

A top tier course without Concrete Tees, no thank you. Would never get above a 4 Star from me with astro turf tees.

 

[rickles]

I do see a benefit to the OWNER by not offering day passes...no overhead aka...not having to have someone there to take payments. If they were really going to give it a go they'd try to automate it online, but just MHO.

 

[E_Rock25]

A top tier course without Concrete Tees, no thank you. Would never get above a 4 Star from me with astro turf tees.

I was worried too but they are really nicely done and I didn't even notice I was on them after the first hole.. I think the reason for these is it is very easy to move them to tweak the holes slightly. If they are up-kept properly I see no problem with it. I didn't play them when they were wet and wonder how they grip then but like I said they were really nice to play on when I was there IMO better than some concrete pads I have played on.

 

[timj5304]

A top tier course without Concrete Tees, no thank you. Would never get above a 4 Star from me with astro turf tees.

I was very skeptical myself. After playing it in a downpour with heavy winds, these tee pads had mud on them from people's shoes and I never had any type of grip issue at all. They were surprisingly way more grip than concrete is in similar conditions. I usually have an obsession with concrete pads but I have to give Mike props for these tees.

 

[SpringDgLover]

I can't see a course closed to the general public as ever having a stake as the best course in the world or even in the top 20. This isn't ball golf, we have nowhere near the amount of players to justify this business plan. The beauty of disc golf is being able to travel and play wonderful courses all over the country without having a membership, this course represents the exact opposite of that.

 

[timj5304]

I can't see a course closed to the general public as ever having a stake as the best course in the world or even in the top 20. This isn't ball golf, we have nowhere near the amount of players to justify this business plan. The beauty of disc golf is being able to travel and play wonderful courses all over the country without having a membership, this course represents the exact opposite of that.

Without social media, outside of a few people in Minnesota this would be still what it was likely meant to be, a private course for the owner and his friends to have a care free good time, to play at his pace, to not worry about graffiti(which some idiot already the first day put a disc charger on it). Flyboy aviation down in Georgia because too big and was taken off of here for similar reasons. I wonder if the the owner Mike even wants his course on this site? There is a difference to me between being a pay to play course and a true private course on the land that your family lives on.

 

[E_Rock25]

This isn't ball golf, we have nowhere near the amount of players to justify this business plan.

I have to disagree... BRP is a top 10 Play to Play and there are many times when it is almost unplayable due to the amount of people on the course. 3 to 4 hour rounds are the norm there now it seem. Not to mention seeing groups a 8 to 9 beginners hacking there way through the course. I think this is a great problem for DG to have. It means we are growing and growing strong. This course is not for everyone nor was it designed to be so and I think thats ok. Is it one of the best courses in the world? No! Does it have a chance at making the top 10 on this site? Yes! Why? Because people who do play it will likely rate it very high because of the quality of the course and it amenities. There is also quite a bit of hype sounding the course that contributes to higher ratings.

 

[Horsman]

I was worried too but they are really nicely done and I didn't even notice I was on them after the first hole.. I think the reason for these is it is very easy to move them to tweak the holes slightly. If they are up-kept properly I see no problem with it. I didn't play them when they were wet and wonder how they grip then but like I said they were really nice to play on when I was there IMO better than some concrete pads I have played on.

I was very skeptical myself. After playing it in a downpour with heavy winds, these tee pads had mud on them from people's shoes and I never had any type of grip issue at all. They were surprisingly way more grip than concrete is in similar conditions. I usually have an obsession with concrete pads but I have to give Mike props for these tees.

I get you guys. Ive played on what is considered good astroturf on other courses and I hear the same things from every else as well but I still slip on them. Maybe if I played in cleats it would be ok but I still wouldnt go out of my way to play this course, If I even could, since it has no concrete tees

 

[E_Rock25]

In all honesty I wish I could have rated this course a 4.25 it's better than a 4 for sure but not a 4.5 and defiantly not a 5 IMHO. The lack of multiple pin and pad locations along with very little elevation kills it's rating in my mind. If this course was made somewhere in the St. Croix river valley with some awesome elevation that part of the state has I would be a member in a heart beat. Elevation and water are 2 things that are a must for me in a 5 disc course and Vision Quest falls far short in the elevation category.

 

[Steve West]

I get you guys. Ive played on what is considered good astroturf on other courses and I hear the same things from every else as well but I still slip on them. Maybe if I played in cleats it would be ok but I still wouldnt go out of my way to play this course, If I even could, since it has no concrete tees

These aren't astroturf, it's some sort of interwoven stiff fibers. Think Scoth Brite scrubber, not fake grass.