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2019 Pros Switching Sponsors Official Thread

Paul keeps up with how well his discs are selling and he sees the owners of Innova and Discmania making money off disc golfers, most likely he is taking a page from their book to start his own company.

Perhaps Innova will still make them for now under his name, especially if Discmania is completely moving shop to Colorado and not having to rely on Innova anymore. For now Innova is mass producing Mcbeth discs to make tons of profit.

Mcbeth seems to strive to be the best, to be the boss, to leave a legacy; I don't see how a different sponsorship will help this, it would be like starting over, too many unknowns. He knows discs with his name will sell, he just needs to have a way to produce them himself, Innova could be that bridge for now. This would ensure a great future even when he can't compete with the youngsters anymore and this is why he needs to do it sooner than later while his is still at the top.
 
Ok, I'm sorry I know this isn't the place for real questions, but I have to ask:

Doesn't starting your own company require a generous amount of start up capital? Equipment, materials, advertising, shipping network, property, and probably more things I can't think of. Does he have the money to get that kind of business off the ground and competitive with the dozens of other companies already going? It would be a great legacy-move, but if his goal is financial security, it's a huge risk without some backers
 
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpclCXlgV16/

So maybe McBeth goes to Legacy.

He still gets to throw his favorite molds because they're basically exact flight replicas of Innovas discs.
Legacy sales go through the roof. Paul gets a substantial cut, maybe even part of the company. Rico could really use the marketing push and advertising potential. Win/win for the two of them.
 
blake833 said:
Ok, I'm sorry I know this isn't the place for real questions, but I have to ask:

Doesn't starting your own company require a generous amount of start up capital? Equipment, materials, advertising, shipping network, property, and probably more things I can't think of. Does he have the money to get that kind of business off the ground and competitive with the dozens of other companies already going? It would be a great legacy-move, but if his goal is financial security, it's a huge risk without some backers
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This keeps getting kicked around because some people seem to not want to think he would leave Innova for Discraft.

I'm still thinking we might see a line of McBeth discs, but not exactly his own company. I would fully expect to still see Discraft's name on these discs.
 
Casey 1988 said:
I am not even sure Innova knows with all the side brands they produce now.
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This is absolutely foolish.

They for sure know how many they produce in a year (or any given day/week/month), and I'm sure they have a running tally on stock in the warehouse. So how many they sell is a simple math problem.

Now where/how they sell them is more complicated. Sent to wholesalers, individuals/clubs, other disc brands, factory store, etc. etc. etc. They also give some away to their pro team and whatnot, so there may be a little untracked leakage at times.

They may have some on consignment at places so the line gets blurred for how many are "sold" at any given time.

But still, on a yearly basis, there's no way they don't know how many discs they sell to within a very close percentage. If you think otherwise you're delusional.
 
ThunderEagle said:
This keeps getting kicked around because some people seem to not want to think he would leave Innova for Discraft.

I'm still thinking we might see a line of McBeth discs, but not exactly his own company. I would fully expect to still see Discraft's name on these discs.
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I still go back to the point that the START of all the rumors was that he was in discussions with Discraft so that still seems to be the likely landing point.

However... the thought that if it were just cash, the amount of money discraft would be throwing at him that Innova wouldn't match would have to be an amount Innova thinks is absurd, and or there is an element of spite in negotiations?
So the thought is some other stake or control in the company or bigger role in merchandising than just discs. Maybe something Innova doesn't want to give up... to anyone?

So, were talks with discraft just a starting point and a big move to partial ownership with legacy a plan all along? Frankly seems plausible and to me the only realistic not-discraft option.
 
Taco8slo said:
Paul...most likely he is taking a page from their book to start his own company.
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I don't see that, he's way too young to stop playing. More likely imop..he is announcing a part ownership of an existing brand that he is going to help market. And I fully believe that it will be Innova or Discmania USA.
 
Taco8slo said:
Paul keeps up with how well his discs are selling and he sees the owners of Innova and Discmania making money off disc golfers, most likely he is taking a page from their book to start his own company.

Perhaps Innova will still make them for now under his name, especially if Discmania is completely moving shop to Colorado and not having to rely on Innova anymore. For now Innova is mass producing Mcbeth discs to make tons of profit.

Mcbeth seems to strive to be the best, to be the boss, to leave a legacy; I don't see how a different sponsorship will help this, it would be like starting over, too many unknowns. He knows discs with his name will sell, he just needs to have a way to produce them himself, Innova could be that bridge for now. This would ensure a great future even when he can't compete with the youngsters anymore and this is why he needs to do it sooner than later while his is still at the top.
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Starting his own company would be starting over.
 
jfb3 said:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpclCXlgV16/

So maybe McBeth goes to Legacy.

He still gets to throw his favorite molds because they're basically exact flight replicas of Innovas discs.
Legacy sales go through the roof. Paul gets a substantial cut, maybe even part of the company. Rico could really use the marketing push and advertising potential. Win/win for the two of them.
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I'm pretty sure the Legacy Towel thing was meant as a joke.
 
I'm just looking forward to seeing more variety as someone who throws mostly Discraft.

The big question is, will all the innova fan boys swallow their pride and try out some Discraft plastic if Paul's stamp is on it?
 
For some reason, I could see Paul building something with Legacy before I could see him going to Discraft.

I think he's looking at the long term, he's getting older and knows that he has limited time to be top dog, but I think he wants to be in the game for life, not just jump from sponsor to sponsor.

Just a thought
 
MANBURGARLAR said:
The big question is, will all the innova fan boys swallow their pride and try out some Discraft plastic if Paul's stamp is on it?
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I'm a big fan of McBeth, and throw almost exclusively Innova (not because of Paul), but I don't own any McBeth signature discs.

I'm not a collector, so I guess I don't really understand the appeal of a stamped signature regardless of what disc it is on.

I wish Paul the best no matter where he ends up, and will always cheer him on, but I won't buy his discs and it has nothing to do with pride.
 
I'll buy some of the new releases that Paul helps whatever company come out with. Why? Because I buy discs every year, even though I don't need them. Why? Because I like to try new things, and I like to see if I like a new mold/variation better than something in my bag. I won't buy them because Paul's name is on them, I'll buy them because they will be new and interesting molds to test out.

If all that ends up happening is him bagging normal production molds that sponsor is foolish. I've no interest in buying something I've already thrown 5 years ago but didn't like just because a new Pro's name is on them.
 
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