Frustrated

[treethacker]

Been out trying to practice my silly backhand. I say trying because it gets boring just standing there trying to throw the disc across my chest over and over. Sorry but its true! But I did it anyway and then I tried to think of any other thing I do that involves throwing something across my chest,see when I thought of the forehand I thought of skipping a rock across a pond,that I could relate to and it kind of gave me an idea of how to throw forehand but backhand...nope! Couldn't think of a thing to relate it to except in disc golf.
So I tried to throw some with a slow motion x step and I must say my disc when sailing...straight as an arrow...hard right. meant to go towards the basket but instead went to the right,way right.
It suddenly occurred to me that I finally had muscle memory...only for a nice grip lock or poor form which ever makes you happy.
So I have tried this goofy backhand and as usual I end up with sore ankles,sore knees,frustrated,angry,cussing a lot and discouraged.:wall:
Other than that I'm having a great time! :\

 

[djjeremiahj]

go buy yourself a bunch of heavier discs (170-175g) and go into a field.

1) The x-step takes a few weeks to perfect.

2) the lighter discs really amplify issues in your throw. It would be better to throw a super heavy disc, if the form were right, and then work down in weight.

i'd recommend whatever DX you can find cheap and around speed 10....
it's all muscle memory and you have to practice letting go and refining where the disc goes when you do.

Dont really worry about anything other than learning how to throw straight ahead with control.
(After 1 hour or so in a field, with the proper discs, you should see immediate improvement...)

 

[Eagle]

Been playing disc golf for about three years now and I still can not get a backhand drive down. Average about 200ft and that is if I am lucky. I
Disc I use - Teebird (150) Eagle (165?) Valkyrie (not sure the weight)

It sounds like the discs you have are to over stable for you, if you're only throwing 200 feet.

Try throwing a Roadrunner, JLS, or Sidewinder. The discs you have are better suited to someone who can throw 330+

 

[garublador]

Grip locks like that might mean you're on the right track but your timing is a bit off. Watch some videos of pros and watch when they start their pull with respect to when they plant their front foot. Also, remember what the hit feels like when you grip lock. You're probably hitting it pretty well when that happens.

 

[treethacker]

Thanks guys! I had not thought of using heavier disc but,hey,why not.
Since I am addicted to this silly game I will,of course,be back out practicing tomorrow!:thmbup:

 

[NDABRUSH]

Stupid silly game.

 

[bpatton]

Have you ever played baseball? The "x" step is the exact same footwork as fielding a grounder and then throwing the first base. It is slightly more drawn out in disc golf but if you can throw a baseball 127 ft. on a line(the distance from home to second or third to first) then you should be able to master getting a disc to 300 ft. Keep trying

 

[agapedad]

This might be a dumb question, but from what I have seen, when you throw forehand you face the basket more, correct?
Make when you release your BH that your shoulder is pointing in the direction you want the disc to go. If you are facing the basket, your drive will go to the right for sure. I was just working on this with one of my kids last weekend.

 

[zenbot]

Some of my greatest advances came from seeing myself on video.

 

[zenbot]

You may never see me do this again but I'm going to give you a link to a great thread on this really stupid site full of jerks. I hate myself for doing this but read jhern's posts. He explains it very well. Then this other guy draws some pictures. It works.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/dgr/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16139

 

[billnchristy]

I don't know if heavier discs is going to help anything, just mask things.

Buy a 150 leopard and a 165.

Ok, I have been working on my backhand for a couple weeks now, I was 150'-200' like you talk about.

I played several rounds with a zephyr, superclass disc, super slow, super big and super unstable. If you do not throw clean it crashes and burns.

You can replicate this with an understable putter but I actually think the zephyr is a better choice.

Next...form, the zephyr slows your armspeed down and makes you focus on wrist flick, if you have a putter that will flutter and dive bomb on you if you throw too fast it will be perfect.

I start facing completely away from my target, take 2-3 steps while I turn, pull across my chest and flick the wrist on the final pull-thru.

I have gone from 150' to over 250' with a strong headwind in just a couple weeks.

 

[chiggins]

Been playing disc golf for about three years now and I still can not get a backhand drive down.

Before you do anything more with footwork or discs or anything, try this:

Grip: check out Orientation, Seam of the Hand, Wrist Down. Save the rest for later.

Fling: check this one out, it'll give you the feeling of what it's like for the disc to rip out of your hand correctly, and pivot on your grip.

Work on just that part. If you're gripping correctly, can pull the disc in a straight line across your chest, and do the pivot-fling so that the disc rips out of your hand, you'll see immediate results. If your weight's mostly over your front foot when it happens, it should stay reasonably flat, but feeling the weight of the disc as it flings around your grip/pivot will tell you whether or not it's going flat or going nose up.

You'll also probably pick up some bad habits along the way that you'll be eliminating next year, but what the hell, why not start with a dramatic improvement and something to build on. If you get that part down, you should at least get a feel for where it's headed.

NOTE: Don't test out the fling thing in the house! If you're doing it right, it won't take much before the disc is ejecting itself from your hand, and you will not be able to hold on to it. You will break windows, puncture drywall, explode lamps, etc.

 

[treethacker]

wow! Lots of information! I think the post that Zenbot gave me the addy to really helped alot.
Looks like I have a lot of work to do,mostly "unlearning" the things I am doing right now.

 

[treethacker]

So I should turn my wrist in towards my arm and then when I start to throw let my arm go across my chest and then at the extension let my wrist fling out and the disc should snap out of my hand?
Went out and practiced today for about an hour. Had a few so-so throws but none more than a little over 200 ft still. Later on I just started to grip lock a lot of the throws. Afterward my right wrist(I throw BHRH),elbow and shoulder were pretty sore. Is that a good sign or am I still messing it up?
Hope to be able to get some video of it but $200 for a camera is a bit much when you have other more important bills to pay!

 

[sidewinder22]

Think about your griplocks(assuming they go further than your normal drives), that is actually more the way you need to throw except your aiming is off. Throwing a disc, is more about slinging it than throwing.

 

[keltik]

You may never see me do this again but I'm going to give you a link to a great thread on this really stupid site full of jerks. I hate myself for doing this but read jhern's posts. He explains it very well. Then this other guy draws some pictures. It works.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/dgr/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16139

it makes me so happy to be called "this other guy".

 

[treethacker]

I've been trying NOT to sling it..but I am supposed to? So confused.
Practiced yesterday,feel totally out of sync when I try the backhand. Really clumsy.sigh:\

 

[AdamCaudle]

I've been trying NOT to sling it..but I am supposed to? So confused.
Practiced yesterday,fell totally out of sync when I try the backhand. Really clumsy.sigh:\

By sling it I think they mean use your arm like a whip. Where you hips and torso do the rotating and then once you get to the pec your arm explodes in acceleration to get snap and put more spin on the disc. It's something I've been working on for a few days.

 

[zenbot]

it makes me so happy to be called "this other guy".

How come none of you do nice things like that for DGCR?

We just get asked for our opinions and then ridiculed for them.

 

[Daddy-O]

I've been trying NOT to sling it..but I am supposed to? So confused.
Practiced yesterday,feel totally out of sync when I try the backhand. Really clumsy.sigh:\

I've felt that way plenty of times when trying to practice new techniques. Changes can come slow or sometimes when you least expect it. IMO, don't overdo the driver practice, I would say every other day at the most, mixed in with some casual rounds and midrange or putting practice.