2016 Tourney Videos

[thedisceye]

Funny thing is he admits throwing from the wrong lie, asks the group. Seemingly not one player has a rule book or knows any rules or proper steps - "seeing that you were that close, lets just call it a foot fault". Just another embarrassing moment for disc golf.:thmbdown:

I think they just wanted to take the friendly route and call him for a foot fault so he could putt again without penalty. No idea if that's technically legal.

 

[Major Tomahawk]

I think they just wanted to take the friendly route and call him for a foot fault so he could putt again without penalty. No idea if that's technically legal.

They're either playing Snap-Ching or are playing by the ADGT rules.

:doh::wall:

 

[curt]

That definitely goes against the rules of the game. The rules specifically say playing from the wrong lie is not a stance violation. He should have been assessed a one throw penalty and putt for the correct lie. IMO, the whole card could have been disqualified for "overt failure to enforce the rules of disc golf". (3.3.B.11 of the competition manual)

 

[blackcatsmith]

Play the course as you find it, play the disc where it lies, and if you can't do either, do what's fair.

 

[notroman]

Yep there was another tourney video in 2014 or 2015 where I believe Schusterick putted out from the wrong disc. Maybe it was Barrett Johnson, I don't remember. They played it by the rules and had him putt out again from the correct lie and he received a penalty stroke.

 

[Major Tomahawk]

Yep there was another tourney video in 2014 or 2015 where I believe Schusterick putted out from the wrong disc. Maybe it was Barrett Johnson, I don't remember. They played it by the rules and had him putt out again from the correct lie and he received a penalty stroke.

That doesn't sound correct either. If he already putted out, the hole is over and he receives a one-throw penalty. If he re-putted out, he should get a one throw penalty and a practice shot penalty. Beuler?

 

[notroman]

That doesn't sound correct either. If he already putted out, the hole is over and he receives a one-throw penalty. If he re-putted out, he should get a one throw penalty and a practice shot penalty. Beuler?

My memory is fuzzy. Maybe he didn't re-putt. He definitely received a penalty though. I won't be able to find the video now so I can't verify. I'll stop talking about this now before we get yelled at for having a conversation in a video thread

 

[DiscJunkie]

I'll stop talking about this now before we get yelled at for having a conversation in a video thread

Mr.Wizard and I say, Thank You.

 

[Pure Hyzer]

PHP #14 - Kelly Ridge Open, 2016 (Locastro, Bitney, Long, Addiego, Lockwood)



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Round 2, Lead Card coverage from Kelly Ridge Open, 2016. This tournament takes place at the Kelly Ridge Golf Course in Oroville, California on January 24th, 2016.

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[weeman]

Yep there was another tourney video in 2014 or 2015 where I believe Schusterick putted out from the wrong disc. Maybe it was Barrett Johnson, I don't remember. They played it by the rules and had him putt out again from the correct lie and he received a penalty stroke.

It was the Music City Open from a couple years ago. The round was at Fontanel. Think he did re-putt with the penalty.

 

[AzteC]

That doesn't sound correct either. If he already putted out, the hole is over and he receives a one-throw penalty. If he re-putted out, he should get a one throw penalty and a practice shot penalty. Beuler?

If you putt out from a lie that IS NOT yours, the hole is not over... If you did that, than technically you didn't even finish the hole, because you never threw from your original lie.

That would be considered a "misplay" bearing 803.03 G-1B

"If no subsequent throws have been made after the misplayed throw, the player shall continue play from the correct lie and be assessed a one-throw penalty for the misplay. If an additional throw or throws have been made after the misplayed throw, the player shall complete the hole being played and be assessed a two-throw penalty for the misplay."

G-3
If the player where to just end the hole after incorrectly holing out, this happens.
"Failure To Hole Out. The player has teed off on a hole without having holed out on the previous hole. The score for the misplayed hole shall be the number of throws made, plus one for holing out, plus two penalty throws for the misplay. The player must not actually hole out on the previous hole. Intentionally failing to hole out constitutes withdrawal from competition."

 

[Flick Maniac]

Play the course as you find it, play the disc where it lies, and if you can't do either, do what's fair.

Nope, play it both ways and let the TD hash it out. Provisionals, always when in doubt.

 

[blackcatsmith]

and if there is no TD and it's not a tourney? Give me a break.

 

[_dj_]

Yep there was another tourney video in 2014 or 2015 where I believe Schusterick putted out from the wrong disc. Maybe it was Barrett Johnson, I don't remember. They played it by the rules and had him putt out again from the correct lie and he received a penalty stroke.

It was the Music City Open from a couple years ago. The round was at Fontanel. Think he did re-putt with the penalty.

@ 9:46

 

[Pbmercil]

and if there is no TD and it's not a tourney? Give me a break.

Were talking about a tournament round here. Nobody gives two sharts what someone does in a casual round. But PDGA tournament rounds are supposed to be played by the PDGA rules of play, and competitors are obligated to enforce them. If a group isn't sure how to play it by the rules the last thing they should do is just wing it and do "whatever sounds right".

The incorrect lie just getting called a foot fault is a pretty common bad ruling. I think people just don't want to assess penalties for honest mistakes.

 

[lyleoross]

The incorrect lie just getting called a foot fault is a pretty common bad ruling. I think people just don't want to assess penalties for honest mistakes.

I find this hard to believe, not that it happens, just that players so little understand a fairly simple rule. I can see why they go with it's a foot fault, after all, technically speaking, it is. But a quick thought should make you consider that there has to be more on this in the rule book.

Rule number 1, carry the rule book with you during tournament play.

 

[Mattallica]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RcinsYBp0S8

 

[Streets]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RcinsYBp0S8

Thank you!

 

[blackcatsmith]

Yes that... thank you. Eagerly anticipating this upcoming season coverages.

 

[sjberry2017]

Hopefully Marty will cover more of these this year if some of the other Prodigy guys are out there; I think a couple are playing in Huk Central, hopefully he'll be out there as well.