I was referring more to the common roc, comet, etc. It's definitely a hair faster (not just wider rim width) than a buzzz which I also consider fast for a mid. At least fast enough to throw a powerful 350 foot flat ground straight, level to-the-point shot with little to no turn if it's fresh and heavy enough. Or even longer if you have dat McBeast powah. Yeah the squall, glide, warship, truth, and many others are all noticeably faster but I guess to me they begin to blur the lines of "midrange drivers" and "fairway drivers". Regardless this is all semantics which I personally don't care to discuss often these days, though I used to. I'm mostly just a frolfer now, not the argumentative, analytical, obsessive forumite I once was.