ZAMson
^Has PhD in Disc-Artistry
wholesale cost went up a few years ago, along with the rest of petroleum product prices.
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I didn't mean any specific producer.
^^^This is what I meant. I know there's plenty of reasonably priced base line plastics out there, but it just seems like the trend is towards producing premium plastic discs.
Aren't you on the inside? Probably trying to perpetuate the myth that the disc golf companies aren't in collusion to milk us of every last penny. Remind me to wear my tin foil hat before ready any of your posts!wholesale cost went up a few years ago, along with the rest of petroleum product prices.
I do not disagree with any of your points. Was just making a comment that new discs seem to be higher priced. There are also some discs which are only available in the higher end plastics as well.We are determining that trend, not the manufacturer. We're buying, throwing, and recommending premium at every turn. If there weren't so many "DX is flippy after one tree hit" comments (which is totally an incorrect claim for all but a few members on here that have the power to destroy a DX disc) and more "this DX disc glides so straight and sweet it should be illegal" or "I lost my DX disc to the drink, and I wish I'd thrown my same mold Champ instead", we would be seeing more baseline plastic.
We are determining that trend, not the manufacturer. We're buying, throwing, and recommending premium at every turn. If there weren't so many "DX is flippy after one tree hit" comments (which is totally an incorrect claim for all but a few members on here that have the power to destroy a DX disc) and more "this DX disc glides so straight and sweet it should be illegal" or "I lost my DX disc to the drink, and I wish I'd thrown my same mold Champ instead", we would be seeing more baseline plastic.
I'm guilty of that Ill admit. I love the look and feel of premium plastic, not that DX doesn't feel great either. I have a DX Roc that I got when I first started playing, I've hit so many trees with its its bent, I just bend it back as best I can. I dont think its flippy yet......still flies nearly as straight as the day I got it. I should start throwing more DX, I mean I can get it anywhere just a run to the local PAIS and viola.....
wholesale cost went up a few years ago, along with the rest of petroleum product prices.
IRA = Innova Retirement Account :hfive:What is surprising to me is all of the regular Innova stuff I got when I played a lot of tournaments 4-5 years ago is now going up in value because it is "pre-number". First I've heard the term "pre-number" being used was a few months ago. But I am very out of loop on that stuff.
I also LOVE that Innova changed the Roc mold, so now all of my boxes of old Rocs are just sitting there gaining value.. :hfive: :clap:![]()
I only started playing last May, but I hope I never succumb to the OOP disc hunting fiend. Right now I'm happy buying stuff off the shelf. Some DX, some stuff in higher plastics. I do prefer X as my baseline in Discraft tho.
I've noticed this as well. Special runs and limited editions, ultra-premium plastic, whatever you want to call it, have made $20-25 very normal. All the Innova Glow Champ is $20-$25. CryZtal is $20- $25. Any Prodigy or MVP is $20 or darn close.
As for production plastic, the newer companies (especially Prodigy) seem to be driving the initial cost of discs upward. The problem is that one firm (Innova) is still the market giant. When they see Prodigy charging $20 for a disc, they immediately think they can increase the retail cost of Star Plastic up to, say $18 and win the price point by still taking an increase in retail cost. Their other plastics increase in retail accordingly. The problem this creates is that once Innova reacts, the rest of the market reacts in turn because they're gunning for Innova's market share. In short, we have a limited retail market with one major price setter. The exact opposite of the resale market.
Cheers!
but it just seems like the trend is towards producing premium plastic discs.
I guess it's time to unload all my 11x KC Pro Teebirds, and swap them out for 11x Champs.