I've got a bunch of old Big Bird stamped Ontario's. I love them. If you are ever in the area, stop by and I'll let you...LOOK...at my Ontario's.Ontarios are the ****, I know alot of people including myself that love them. Even the old ones are sweet and therefore I dont agree with the bad mold talk. If it was so bad, why did they start making them again?
It depends on the kind of player you are. A lot of people just grip and rip and torque the crap out of everything they throw. If you do that to an Ontario, it will turn and burn. It's just not stable enough to overpower and get away with it. If you have smooth form and understand how to use some finesse, you can do anything with an Ontario. You can put an Ontario on a hyzer line and get it to hold that line if you know what you are doing. You can throw an Ontario into the wind if you know what you are doing. If you just grip it and rip it, you can't do any of those things with an Ontario. You CAN just grip it and rip it with a Rancho and get away with it due to the extra stability, so it makes it a better mold for most people. Most...not all.
Personally, I like the Ontario Roc. I like the Discraft Comet better. It has a larger diameter than the Ontario Roc and gets better glide. If you use smooth form and power down on the Comet, that extra glide kicks in and it flies farther that the Ontario Roc for me. Other than that they are very similar discs...great all around discs that you can put on any line IF you know what you are doing that are mis-characterized as turnover discs becasue they will turn over if you don't know what you are doing.