HyzerUniBomber
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I'm not even sure how to start this, so I'll just start typing:
Nick has been working on his form, and I decided to A->B him to Wiggins. What I didn't realize as I started that process, was that it would connect in a way that I finally started to understand 2 major concepts that had not clicked fully with me.
1. Loading from the backside. There has to be a better way to understand this, describe it - because the door frame drill and the butt wipe drill get close, but FOR ME (and only me) that movement didn't click even after doing that drill hundreds of times. Even after TEACHING that drill - I didn't get how linked to posture and foot alignment it is.
When I truly uncorked that "loading the hips in", it was like I pushed a big counter weight forward that is on the right side of the plant foot - and it's moving directly forward.
KEY POINT: the feet have to be staggered so that you're driving the backside forward on the right side! Too little stagger and you'll be taking away your counter weight for the next step.
It's different to load into the backside from a 1-step than and x-step because in a 1-step you have to push forward with the back leg and the x-step is more about just getting the staggered feet right (and on the ball of the back foot) so it can clear and counterbalance. That small difference for me is best explained by the feeling of reaching behind you and pulling your friend off the ground once your weight is on your front foot. You'd have to drive weight forward from the back foot to get enough momentum to really pull that person off the ground. With an x-step the momentum is already there.
2. Easiest way to understand this step is to look at Wiggins in the 2nd and 3rd screen grabs. It's SOOOOO important to have your power pocket get over the toes and knee. AND if the left foot is staggered properly during your setup, you get that nice angle that looks like \.
To get into the \ position, I literally stood around for a couple days trying move from point to point understanding how to get from that finishing position back to step 1 and then back forward. I was pulling through lower and squaring my shoulders up better and getting over my knee, but I kept popping past my brace - even though I was throwing in the mid to upper 400's. The only time I was catching my weight fully was on a hyzer and that's when it clicked that I was straightening my feet offset and losing my ability to counterbalance.
I know this is getting wordy - but I think this same issue is one that quite a few of the 400-475' throwers who are getting a bunch of the stuff right, but can't quite unlock the next 25-100' are stuck on.
When the upper body stacks OVER the knee and ball of the foot, with the backside loading in on the right side - the upper body comes through with force.
So... here's what I THINK is happening:
All this setup is now the complete power generation. The disc gets an initial yank at the top of the backswing, getting it to the guiding forward speed. The disc comes into the center chest and at that point, it feels like it's gliding through the track - not yet accelerating.
The right shoulder is leading that upper body that is now tilted forward over the knee/foot and the disc is loaded into the hand on the outside position.
With the arm muscles loose and the grip snug, the extension is more of a RELEASE of the power with the aim to be able to extend the disc in a way that keeps the grip ripping off the rim properly.
It's SUPER hard to not let the feeling of "throw it hard" leak into your brain, but whatever it is that I'm doing when I try to "throw it harder" seems to bring the disc into that power pocket with too much speed to hold onto and slip just a tiny bit too early. If I grip well, it's almost a complete wash though - which can be confusing.
It's like there's a perfect shape of the arc and grip that can tolerate a certain amount of initial speed and it's linked to the posture and the balance.
Nick has been working on his form, and I decided to A->B him to Wiggins. What I didn't realize as I started that process, was that it would connect in a way that I finally started to understand 2 major concepts that had not clicked fully with me.
1. Loading from the backside. There has to be a better way to understand this, describe it - because the door frame drill and the butt wipe drill get close, but FOR ME (and only me) that movement didn't click even after doing that drill hundreds of times. Even after TEACHING that drill - I didn't get how linked to posture and foot alignment it is.
When I truly uncorked that "loading the hips in", it was like I pushed a big counter weight forward that is on the right side of the plant foot - and it's moving directly forward.
KEY POINT: the feet have to be staggered so that you're driving the backside forward on the right side! Too little stagger and you'll be taking away your counter weight for the next step.
It's different to load into the backside from a 1-step than and x-step because in a 1-step you have to push forward with the back leg and the x-step is more about just getting the staggered feet right (and on the ball of the back foot) so it can clear and counterbalance. That small difference for me is best explained by the feeling of reaching behind you and pulling your friend off the ground once your weight is on your front foot. You'd have to drive weight forward from the back foot to get enough momentum to really pull that person off the ground. With an x-step the momentum is already there.
2. Easiest way to understand this step is to look at Wiggins in the 2nd and 3rd screen grabs. It's SOOOOO important to have your power pocket get over the toes and knee. AND if the left foot is staggered properly during your setup, you get that nice angle that looks like \.
To get into the \ position, I literally stood around for a couple days trying move from point to point understanding how to get from that finishing position back to step 1 and then back forward. I was pulling through lower and squaring my shoulders up better and getting over my knee, but I kept popping past my brace - even though I was throwing in the mid to upper 400's. The only time I was catching my weight fully was on a hyzer and that's when it clicked that I was straightening my feet offset and losing my ability to counterbalance.
I know this is getting wordy - but I think this same issue is one that quite a few of the 400-475' throwers who are getting a bunch of the stuff right, but can't quite unlock the next 25-100' are stuck on.
When the upper body stacks OVER the knee and ball of the foot, with the backside loading in on the right side - the upper body comes through with force.
So... here's what I THINK is happening:
All this setup is now the complete power generation. The disc gets an initial yank at the top of the backswing, getting it to the guiding forward speed. The disc comes into the center chest and at that point, it feels like it's gliding through the track - not yet accelerating.
The right shoulder is leading that upper body that is now tilted forward over the knee/foot and the disc is loaded into the hand on the outside position.
With the arm muscles loose and the grip snug, the extension is more of a RELEASE of the power with the aim to be able to extend the disc in a way that keeps the grip ripping off the rim properly.
It's SUPER hard to not let the feeling of "throw it hard" leak into your brain, but whatever it is that I'm doing when I try to "throw it harder" seems to bring the disc into that power pocket with too much speed to hold onto and slip just a tiny bit too early. If I grip well, it's almost a complete wash though - which can be confusing.
It's like there's a perfect shape of the arc and grip that can tolerate a certain amount of initial speed and it's linked to the posture and the balance.
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