thatdirtykid
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Flatter than most newer teebirds but not as stiff as my other AJ teebirds
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[Innova] For the love of the Bird! ..Teebird that is!
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Flatter than most newer teebirds but not as stiff as my other AJ teebirds
robdeforge
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Plastic wise not exactly the same, but the Rival from Legacy is basically an 11x teebird IMO
Like the Sexton Firebird where it's 'champion plastic' but feels just like star. I'd be down for that. Especially if they're flat. So we need some Tour Series Glow Champion (feels like star) Teebird3's.
twistedraven
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There's plenty of Color Glow Barela Teebird3s from last year and this new year. I'm not sure how this year's flies but last year's is amazing. Gummy and grippy and more mellow just like Sexton Firebirds.
Is that a CAL or CA?
R-Ogre
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Does Innova even know how to make flat top discs anymore?
I've got color glow champ teebirds, but what I really want is this newer softer color glow star. The new wraiths and sidewinders feel amazing, and I think I need a reason to add another teebird to the stack.
My theory is that if you yank them out of the mold when they're hot you will likely get a dome. With the market and demand being what it is these days they are probably rushing everything to get as many discs produced and sold as possible. I think if they weren't rushing things and would let the discs cool down in the mold we might see some flatter discs.
Total unscientific theory based solely on nothing.
R-Ogre
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I've read the same thing before and it makes sense to me. I wish I'd known 3 years ago that flattop thundies would become a rarity
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Stopped at Dicks for shinguards the other day (old friend asked me to guest play for his indoor soccer league). Checked the discs of course and found a few flat Thunderbirds...had to buy one lol. I was surprised they also had some gorgeous swirly Star Destroyers and a bunch of pearly Champ _____.
Sadly no disc stores near me - just one a solid 45+ minutes away. Doesn't hurt I have entirely way too many discs.
That plastic has gotta be better than 12x Champ Teebirds. I had one for about 5 years. It turned into a hyzer-flip to straight disc, which was great, but then the entire flight plate shattered with one too many tree hits. It was a sad day and I still don't have a disc that flies like that seasoned Teebird.
If the new FD flies anything like the older runs I would say it is closer to a fresh DX Teebird or maybe a well seasoned champ Teebird.
I think you'll find it more complementary than something that will replace the Teebird.
I guess we'll see if I am wrong after you get a chance to try it out.
smoothplayer
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I got two of each and am preferring the 21's I got. The two 22's I got are a little softer then my 21's. Still good but the 21's are perfect.
hawgdriver
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FD is straighter but otherwise identical. I fancy myself a Teebird devotee, the disc continues to surprise and impress both in distance and reliability.
Both finish the same, if 'finish' is considered fundamental driver stability at the lowest speeds.
There are significant differences that become apparent with wind and angle. I'm moving increasingly toward the idea that a Teebird is about the perfect driver ever made, and that perfection include performance in wind and reliability. I throw a Teebird about 380-400 most full throws, if that helps gauge my comments.
FD has impressed the hell out of me. It's a Teebird but straight. It has a weird reliability/stability. I have the feeling that it's a matter of preference. I could probably get the same exact results by adjusting angle with an FD when it comes to wind--but stopped testing prior to success. That Teebird wind success has come with tons of reps and visual feedback. For example, in 20 gust 35 strong HW with slight L to R, on day 3 of an AM40 A tier in which I moved up about 20 places, I was happy sending a Teebird on a moderate hyzer line (355' hole) that finished near the basket. I've developed feel with a particular Teebird (this one is 168g Star). I've throw FD in the field in strong HW and sometimes FD I'll throw intending to hyzer but it doesn't bite. More reps I'd probably get the feel.
I've noticed champ Teebird new at max weight has a bit more beef than my 168g Star, especially since I've thrown the latter so much.
This is context for my answer to 'will FD kick it out of the bag?'
Definitely not. If you know Teebird thangs, they ain't going anywhere. If you never threw a Teebird and somehow came to it fresh, maybe.
Does the FD fly differently? Absolutely. The last 1/2 of the flight is flatter and straighter when thrown at the same speed.
Is it worth bagging both? For me, no. I don't have the bandwidth to get so good at both discs. If straighter flight is the issue, I'll just throw a Hex and sacrifice the 30'. Maybe throw the Teebird and lean into a slight flex.
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TiltedFlipCurves
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Isn't a straighter Teebird a TL? (supposedly, never had one and lost my DX Teebird pretty quick)
TurnedOver
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Yes.... but a TL just isn't quite the same as a nicely seasoned Teebird.
azplaya25
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Always though the Millennium JLS was the best straight teebird. It's teebird dead straight flight with little to no fade
