My Home Course....250ish this one is a skip ace waiting to happen and the only truly open hole with hard dirt, flat and no rocks on this woodsy boulder infested mountain meanie. I usually throw something stable here and play for a big skip if its nestled in the upper left corner (short hole but I get best skips out of my destroyer or my Orc so I go with those)...when the basket is dead straight position I have thrown putters to drivers and still no ace! This is a fun hole cause your thinking ace everytime you step up to the box.