At Idlewild I didn't like the few holes that had winding and/or small island skinny OB + evenly spaced or random trees on the fairway. I think those are two bad ideas combined to make one really bad idea. Even leaving those aside, I felt like overall it was just slightly better than average park style golf. There were a handful of really good holes, but also a bunch of throw away holes.
haha thats funny
i was surprised at moraine by the family vibe and i agree i might feel differently if i didnt go when it was slammed on a saturday afternoon (which is completely my fault)
why did you think idlewild is overrated
i thought iron hill was great too and had a few great pin placements too (course is pretty long tho which wears on the arm especially for noodles like myself) and i personally loved the rocks in the fairways