Nose Down Tips

[Discbee]

I was doing some field work yesterday and noticed too many of my backhand throws coming out nose up a bit (some more than a bit). I have been fine tuning some things (weight shift, nose over toes, etc) and have been gaining better accuracy and control and added a bit of distance but I seemed to have lost a bit off my nose angle control on some throws. I try to always angle my wrist in the "hand-shaking" or "pouring coffee" style, but obviously I am not doing enough or doing it consistently. Either way it is nice to hear some updated tips (have perused the threads here but figured there would be more to add).

Looking for some tips that really helped you lock in a nose down release. Thanks!

 

[Malawi]

Same issues for me, i have noticed that it has alot to do with reachback vs release height and weight on the wrong foot. Had a good session yesterday tried to reach back low like waistline and pull through upper belly, it felt easier to keep the shoulders more squared and keep wrist down but you still need to have the weight on the plant foot. It also felt kinda powerful aswell, not sure tho if you loose power by not pulling through nipple line maybe someone with more expertise can answer that

 

[twistedraven]

For me, the #1 thing that has helped me in my disc golf journey with nose up releases or nose up trajectories has been keeping the x-step in my runup as small as possible.

A lot of people do their walkup very evenly spaced, like this: da da da da

Where it should be like this... da dada da


If that makes any sense.

 

[drk_evns]

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137985

 

[MattS]

From my observations, most people with bad nose-up issues are collapsing their shoulder (aka "rounding", aka "hugging yourself") and throwing off their back foot. Attempts to treat the symptom ("nose up") don't work if these core issues aren't addressed first.

 

[BillFleming]

I find that the majority of my backhand throw issues (including nose angle) are due to poor foot work. If I can get my feet place correctly, everything else seems to go smoothly. My grip and arm/wrist angle are easy to set....but the footwork....that's harder.

Look at this way, your grip and arm/wrist angle are set at the start and really should never change. But the footwork....that is 'constantly moving'. I stand facing forward, my first step needs to be short with my lead foot (right) angled left, then a short X step, then a bit longer plant step. If any of those steps are off (too long, too short, wrong place on the line), my throw is off.

I've found the best way to get my footwork correct is to stand at the front of the lie, do my walk backwards, look where I want the disc to go, then look down to where I want my plant foot to end at and start my walk-up. If I can do that and hit all my foot placements correctly, the throw goes where I want it to. Mess up one part of that and it's over.

 

[ballgolfconvert]

I press down a bit more with the thumb to keep the nose down.

 

[Surly Bastage]

I recommend recording your throw, especially from the side.

I had not done so in a while and was mortified to see I had developed a high, low, high swoop that resulted in some ugly nose up throws.

Feel ain't real.

 

[seedlings]

This video contains a little bit about throwing 'pour coffee' (Ezra) versus throwing 'supinate' (Ricky). Neither are wrong.

 

[Surly Bastage]

I like Josh's teaching style and videos. I think he is very good at diagnosing and focusing on root causes of form issues and not all the symptoms, which is helping me diagnose my own issues.

I have been/tried to be a pour the coffee thrower for 30 plus years and have recently tried supinating to help with nose down.

The good - I think it leads to less arm tension, which is helping me get away from strong arming.

I think it helps to show when my timing is off. When my shoulders open early, the disc rips out after the ideal hit point, my hand has supinated too much, and I torque the disc over.

The bad - I think OAT is easier to come by.

 

[autocrosscrx]

I had absolutely no idea what people were talking about with "pour coffee" until I watched that video.

I've been low key watching co-workers and people at hotels for the last 3 years. And virtually everyone pours coffee at a steep nose up anny angle.

 

[Waddball]

This video contains a little bit about throwing 'pour coffee' (Ezra) versus throwing 'supinate' (Ricky). Neither are wrong.

I've tried to pour coffee for a long time, but with mixed results. I tend to struggle with anything that requires "isolated tension" (keeping some parts loose and others tight). I think ideally you would clamp down or push with the thumb right before the hit, but...that's challenging (for now).

I recently switched to supination. I let the disc flop in the backswing and then my wrist naturally moves from pronation (flop) to neutral/slightly supinated as I near the hit. I resisted going down this path as it looks like more moving parts. In reality it was simpler, as it requires no focus on anything other than remaining loose. Overall it's been better.

I think the grip factors in as well. I find the power grip generates some unwanted tension (and if you back off on grip strength, you get inconsistent planes). I've been using the modified fan grip for everything (except putting) and found it's much easier to keep loose and maintain more consistent planes.

 

[seedlings]

I haven't been able to find a rhythm with the supinate - things go nose-up (more than normal). I find more consistency with Ezra's 'opposite of relaxed' position (pictured). Of course I'm still working through form and feeling things out. I think holding the disc this way tends to keep my elbow forward and leave more room in the pocket for the disc to come through. In other words, it compensates for sub-optimal form. For me, of course, not for Ezra. I use a lot of fan grip and power grip.