Preferred Tomahawk Disc

[TidesOfCrimson]

I have been playing disc golf for 7 or 8 years now and my game has been on a decline lately. I have a terribly slow arm speed (RHBH avg 250') yet can throw decent RHFH and tomahawk throws (300+). When I first began playing, my tomahawk was my bread and butter, throwing far and accurate leading to many birdies. Now, as I have tried to develop the rest of my game, my tomahawk has suffered - especially since I had lost the first tomahawk disc that I had success with.

What are the suggestions for a great tomahawk disc that will not flip and dive quickly for such a weak arm? (That's it what is happening to most of my tomahawk throws)

 

[JSurmann]

People are going to tell you slower and beefy discs.

xXx
Banshee
Firebird

I use the Banshee but usually only on getting out of trouble shots. I dont think I could get one out more than 200' or so.

 

[birdman101]

i use banshee and XXX some other guys in the area uses flicks

 

[throwfromthewoods]

It's going to depend a lot on your hand size and grip preference.

I use a Predator because I have tiny little girly hands and the rims on XXX and Flicks are too wide for me to get my thumb under the rim nice and tight.

 

[1978]

I don't use tomahawks for distance... but I use them a lot to get that right than left then skip forward. I use medium domed star destroyer... I find that the firebird I carry for thumbers flips too fast.

 

[Bart]

9 and 10 time Banshees....understable at high speeds and overstable at slow speeds....2 tomahawk aces to date...

 

[curveball4]

Overstable is the best for pure D but remember you still have to be able to get a good rip on them to get the right flight. I've used XXX, Preds, Firebirds, & some others but recently have had good luck with a Surge SS. I don't throw OH for max D so the added control is worth the shorter throw

 

[slicemaster]

I'm a fan of SP Rouge for distance 'hawks and Star Eagles for approach.

 

[Cyoda44]

150G flick for thumbers. firebirds or sidewinders for tomahawks.

 

[Hampstead]

No love for the Epic?



btw, does that thing really work?

 

[NoThingness]

I use the ESP 2010 ace race hornet. That thing is awesome for tomahawks\hammers and even better at throwing through foliage

 

[sheaD]

I've seen someone thumb an Epic around 500ft. It works for one-two throws, warps some and then never works again.

 

[Hagström]

Z Predators and when they break in they become longer teebirds

 

[kevinmzane]

I've seen someone thumb an Epic around 500ft. It works for one-two throws, warps some and then never works again.

The Epic works best when warped and "tuned" understable.... It's fun if you have the arm for it and a little determination to get it dialed in but I don't really see it serving a practical purpose. ***I know that there are cases of people who efectively use them quite often and that is great. I am just speaking in general terms.

Anyway, as far as tomahawks go. There are a lot of factors that come into play (cleanliness of release, angle of release, arm speed/torque, spin, etc) Genereally a mildly fast, flat topped driver that is overstable is a good place to start for ovehand D. My favorites would be something like a flat firebird or a flat Talon. They don't go the absolute farthest for me, but are the best balance of control and distance I have found and (for me) are effective up to around 300 on flat ground.
That being said: I think that relying heavily on an overhand game opens you up for a much greater risk of injury (even with a good follow through and good "form") and could cut your disc golf "career" short. I would say that even though you have been playing for quite some time, maybe get in contact with a good teacher or find a nearby clinic to get some pointers on your backhand game. I see a lot of people out there all the time who have been playing for quite some time and still benefit from seemingly the most basic things that they were just never told (or maybe never asked about). Is there some kind of injury or disability keeping you from having the arm speed neccesary for a good backhand?

 

[Hampstead]

I was behind a group of guys that tomahawked every throw. Holes that were 146' were getting 'hawked. What should have been 50' putts were getting the 'hawk. No form, little control, they were squealing like schoolgirls on recess with their drives and then cursing like sailors when they couldn't make a shot.

 

[Subwire]

Starfire and xxx for distance.

 

[zenbot]

zenbot's OH Rant: Copy and Pasted for your perusal.

There is conventional wisdom that can help you with disc selection. I don't subscribe to the theory that you should only use overstable discs.


Overstable discs will complete their turn more slowly. This increases the amount of time the disc is parallel to the ground which keeps it in the air longer.

Less stable discs complete their turn more quickly. Less distance but I find them to be more accurate as the disc starts falling to the ground quicker and is less influenced by wind and variances in your release angle.


One other note is that if you're throwing an understable thumber you need to aim slightly more left of the target than you would with an overstable disc. (Assuming you're throwing RH)

To get you started the Firebird is a very popular disc for overhand. I use my for distance thumbers and a Teebird for shorter shots. Keep in mind that overhand shots are rough on discs. I recommend premium plastic.

To read more about thumbers and tomahawks here's some other threads you might enjoy...but you don't have to take my word for it.

Why overstable for OH?
Thumber disc poll
OH distance
overhand plastic
Thumber Tips
Whats your favorite overhand disc?
Tomahawk vs. Thumber
Overhand Throws: Does discing down still apply?
What was your overhand disc of 2010?
Thumber disc?
Thumber/tohahawk thing...
Disc Selection for Overhand Shots
best tomahawk/ overhand driver?
thumbers - good discs to buy
Overhand disc
What is the best overhand disc?
Favorite Tomahawk Disc?
Trying to incorporate the Tomahawk into my game.
Help: Overhand throws.
Thomahawk and Thumber
Overhead Discs
mid or putter thumbers?

 

[kpc2004]

^ LOL

 

[SteezeOG]

I use a Z Pred right now but when I used to throw OH for actual distance it was an Opto XxX. I don't think there is a better distance thumber disc on the market.

 

[Brick Forcepush]

EPIC!