Thumber pain?

[cdunlapb12]

My thumber is one of my best placement shots, especially coming from a baseball background. But, I'm finding that I have shoulder pain after throwing overhand. Is this a technique problem? Or inherent problem with throwing this way?

 

[hook_nuts]

My thumber is one of my best placement shots, especially coming from a baseball background. But, I'm finding that I have shoulder pain after throwing overhand. Is this a technique problem? Or inherent problem with throwing this way?

Is there an inherent problem with throwing a baseball?

 

[Rol6566]

Are you making sure your shoulder is completely stretched out and warmed up before throwing these shots?

What about throwing lighter weight discs?

 

[cdunlapb12]

I mean there are people who undergo surgery from playing baseball. But it's not like I'm making 90 thumber throws a night. And yeah I warm up some before hand.

 

[thirtydirtybirds]

That's just a pretty hard motion on the shoulder. I find if I throw thumbers too vertically that my shoulder can hurt a bit (and I do have a chronic shoulder issue)

 

[@iDiscGolf]

Usually the baseball players are the ones without issues throwing thumbers, from my observations.

I will throw one or so per round, I feel I've gotten confident with them and have the discs dialed in.

There was a thread here or talk about the weight difference before, about the baseball vs. typical 175 OS disc. I think it's about 25g different. But I could be completely wrong.

 

[cdunlapb12]

If you throw at more of a ¾ release does it help with your soreness? I've never really tried that.

 

[tbird888]

Thumbers and shoulder issues seem to go together like pb & j. That's not to say that everyone develops them since there are pros that throw them regularly and have for years. You may want to look for videos with Brian Schweberger (not sure if that's the right spelling or not). He's a long-time thumber thrower so you may be able to make some changes to throw more like him and save yourself some pain.

 

[DavidSauls]

This far, and nobody has said, "What did the doctor say?"

OK, it depends a bit on how much pain you're talking about, but be very careful continuing to tempt fate, throwing things when you have joint pain. You might just throw the "one more throw" that you'll be regretting for years to come.

 

[Darkgreen]

Going to a doctor is a good idea. I would recommend seeing a doctor with a background in sports medicine. If you go to see a general practitioner, they might just say "then stop throwing overhands." A doctor with a sports medicine background will be better equipped to help you and will be more understanding about your desire to continue to do all the athletic motions that you want to do.

 

[@iDiscGolf]

^ that's not what Clint would say...

 

[cdunlapb12]

Yeah it's not intense pain. But noticeable. Definitely feels different than a sore arm from pitching or something like that.

 

[DavidSauls]

Going to a doctor is a good idea. I would recommend seeing a doctor with a background in sports medicine. If you go to see a general practitioner, they might just say "then stop throwing overhands." A doctor with a sports medicine background will be better equipped to help you and will be more understanding about your desire to continue to do all the athletic motions that you want to do.

100%, and then some. I've taken 4 injuries to orthopedists, 2 of which my GP mis-diagnosed. The ortho has saved me 4 times, with 2 surgeries, 1 rehab, and 1 prescription for rest. It good to know.

 

[DavidSauls]

Yeah it's not intense pain. But noticeable. Definitely feels different than a sore arm from pitching or something like that.

Of course, we don't run off to the surgeon with every twinge of pain. So how bad it hurts often determines how long we put up with it. Certainly, things get inflamed and heal on their own, or with rest.

I coached baseball for decades, and our rule of thumb was that pain in the muscles mean either rest or enduring it; pain in the joints meant, Stop. I don't know if that's a valid or valuable rule of thumb, but it's the one I was raised with.

I also played disc golf through shoulder pain that wasn't too intense, until I tore my labrum and missed much of two years. So I'm a little sensitive about that.

Anyway, when it comes to shoulder pain on or after overhand throws, rotator cuff always comes to mind. The typical symptom is pain when lifting the arm above shoulder height, and the good news is that at least in some cases it can be cured with rehab.

Which is just food for thought until you see a specialist.

 

[MarkDSM]

Could be rusty form and fading good muscle memory in part if OH is an occasional shot (?) Tried doing some baseball tossing lately?

 

[filobedo]

My thumber is one of my best placement shots, especially coming from a baseball background. But, I'm finding that I have shoulder pain after throwing overhand. Is this a technique problem? Or inherent problem with throwing this way?

I hear lots of guys say they will not throw the shot because of shoulder pain but I always wondered if it could also be caused by elbow pain?

 

[cdunlapb12]

Could be rusty form and fading good muscle memory in part if OH is an occasional shot (?) Tried doing some baseball tossing lately?

I was actually gonna try this after work today. To see if a few easy baseball tosses caused any pain. I'm only 23 but it's been 5 years now since I played any baseball at all. So maybe I'm rusty and aging a little. Haha

 

[cmcolomb]

in my experience, it is more about form/angle/technique than simply trying to throw the heck out of it