EXTRAMONTANA
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About to roll out two new stamps
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[Putters] Reptilian Disc Golf's First Mold: The Scale (OS P&A)
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DougCrawford
Double Eagle Member
I have a domey armor I may be willing to part with....
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
I wouldn't mind trying a flatty in a firm, grippy Evo blend. It'd be even better if it glowed like the moon!
riltim
Eagle Member
Goldblum stamp is sick.
173 black bottom stamped Proto Tarpit Scale arrived just in time to play four rounds today. Initial impressions: the top groove is very shallow and narrow- I guess I expected something like the Discraft GT. My putter grip puts my thumb inside the groove so as to avoid it entirely and not feel any different from a Wizard. Holding it for a flick, however, my thumb sits comfortably right in the groove. (I'm a poor authority on forearms, but think this might add some snap to putter flicks.) The disc is flat and the flightplate is noticeably thin. Plastic feels rubery grippy, exactly like the black SSS Wizard in my bag. (For those unfamiliar- the line between SS and SSS is fuzzy; I like the ones that straddle the line.)
My putter line-up is normally beat Wizard, fresh Wizard and Prodiscus Premium Jokeri. Knowing it was going to be a windy day, I put the Scale in the fresh Wizard slot. During the first round, at a short course when the wind was calm, I commented after a couple throws that I didn't think it flew any different than a fresh Wizard.
But then we went to a longer course and the wind picked up. The internet was saying 23 mph winds near our location and it was that with gusts. And then it became obvious that the Scale was a better wind fighter than a fresh Wizard. Parked several 100-150' headwind shots long after I would have switched to the Jokeri any other day.
Specifically comparing the three in terms of stability, the Scale sits in that small gap between a new Wizard and Jokeri. The beedless (but similar depth) Jokeri holds a nice ) path but would not be considered a "shaper." My most impressive throw with this Scale, however, slightly turned around a tree but still faded under the basket on a 100' throw into a strong headwind.
I never threw the Jokeri today. On any other day, I would have relied on it.
My putter line-up is normally beat Wizard, fresh Wizard and Prodiscus Premium Jokeri. Knowing it was going to be a windy day, I put the Scale in the fresh Wizard slot. During the first round, at a short course when the wind was calm, I commented after a couple throws that I didn't think it flew any different than a fresh Wizard.
But then we went to a longer course and the wind picked up. The internet was saying 23 mph winds near our location and it was that with gusts. And then it became obvious that the Scale was a better wind fighter than a fresh Wizard. Parked several 100-150' headwind shots long after I would have switched to the Jokeri any other day.
Specifically comparing the three in terms of stability, the Scale sits in that small gap between a new Wizard and Jokeri. The beedless (but similar depth) Jokeri holds a nice ) path but would not be considered a "shaper." My most impressive throw with this Scale, however, slightly turned around a tree but still faded under the basket on a 100' throw into a strong headwind.
I never threw the Jokeri today. On any other day, I would have relied on it.
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I got lots of kudos at a big B tier this weekend throwing the scale, and even know 1 player who ordered a few from my recommendation and watching me park my approaches over and over again. I thought that was pretty cool. I pretty much throw a scale spike hyzer upshot all the time now, unless there is too much junk to the right side of the pin. Still haven't gotten my first Scale throw in yet, but I know its coming because I flash it across the chains at least once or twice a round.
Sooner34
Birdie Member
Learning to trust this disc more now, and it is exactly the disc that was missing from my bag the longest. Finishes left no matter what basically. The deep rim and flexibly Armor plastic forces a smooth throw, but RHBH it's going left if you don't roll your wrist and throw it into the ground.
Love this disc for steep spike hyzers over trees or brush. Very trust-worthy.
Love this disc for steep spike hyzers over trees or brush. Very trust-worthy.
jcassidy1990
Reptilian Disc Golf
Glad to hear that you are enjoying the mold :clap:
I will say that the Tar Pit Scale is the least stable off the tee. It is by no means straight/stable but it is not going to possess the hard hyzer finish that a Fossil will. I would suggest that you season up your Tar Pit a little more and then bookend the Scale cycle with a fresh Fossil to provide that little more beef on the end of the line.
jcassidy1990
Reptilian Disc Golf
100%
There are more at the shop that we just need to stamp up.
We are starting to get pretty low on discs in general at the shop. I expect Dave to have our molds up and running sometime pretty soon.
I really want him to run some really soft RFF's as well. The Chalk RFF that we have in stock for Scales are really nice. They aren't that flexible and they retain their bite forever.
Trackerdude
Newbie
How would you compare the chalk RFF to your Tarpit?
Goldblum stamps coming soon Jamie?
jcassidy1990
Reptilian Disc Golf
VERY SOON.
Hoping to get some done today.
About to win a FB auction with some Doggie Style catch discs and Mini Wizards too so that'll be a fun little bonus
jcassidy1990
Reptilian Disc Golf
ChalkRFF is more gummy. It also is a little grittier than the Tar Pit.
Personally, I like ChalkRFF more than Tar Pit. It seems to give the discs a little more fade which I always enjoy.
OlyWA Kenobi
Birdie Member
The more and more I throw both the Fossil and the Fossil Fuel, the more I realize how money the Fossil Fuel is! And I'd also argue that the Fossil Fuel is the MOST stable out of the ones I've thrown!
Brodysseus
* Ace Member *
Well, after a week of swirling winds, my love for my Scales has grown even more. These things hold the line into a headwind. Stay straight and always dump off at the end, they've been saving me strokes all week. Even cashed some longer putts into headwinds when I was leery of going at it with my Wizards.
Jcassidy, have you sat down with Dave and the CAD artist to discuss the new mold yet?
Jcassidy, have you sat down with Dave and the CAD artist to discuss the new mold yet?
jcassidy1990
Reptilian Disc Golf
Nope I haven't. I'm getting married 4-11 so my evenings aren't very flexible. I do want to get cracking on something pretty soon though. It appears that we won't be able to tool an entire mold so I will likely be tooling a new top/bottom for their mid base so that I can achieve that competitor to the buzzz/roc circle with a low profile, fast, overstable mid.
I still am VERY interested in developing a lid as well. Once I get this pesky wedding over with..I'll be back in the swing of RDG.
Brodysseus
* Ace Member *
Congrats on the wedding! I'm getting married June 13, so I understand it sucking up your free time.
Hmmm... Maybe a warrior with a spacer to make it deeper, in Fossil... Yes, please.
jcassidy1990
Reptilian Disc Golf
The warrior is pretty much already what I want. If anything, I'd like to create a different bottom that is a little more concave to increase the overstability out of the box. I want this disc to be pretty OS to start just so it can season across a very broad spectrum of stabilities.
