Hole Help

[lxdawg25]

Hole 7 City Park New Orleans:
Okay so a bit of background first. This is if not my worst hole, the second worst hole on my home course. I seem to have one of a few things happen to me. I go right around the large oak (rhbh, monarch or beast) and end up OB usually for being too high and getting hit by the tree, other times it never comes back in. I have tried anny'ing my monarch to the left of the tree but 9/10 times I hit the tree or telephone pole. Or what I've been doing recently is FH my wraith to the left of the oak. I make the hole and get just the right distance the only problem is this still fades off OB just with this shot I can take the stroke and still get a par. I'm working on my BH and by no means can put a buzzz or leo or anything like that down there I need a beast or leopard to be respectable, fh wraith is easy to hit the right distance. With all that being said how would you all go about it? Sidewalk is OB. Thanks all, I'd love to get more pars here, but really want to stop getting doubles :wall:and see a few more birds.

 

[lxdawg25]

Sorry it's hard to see, and it's about 270.

New pic with basket circled

 

[Conard]

Thumber through the window in the tree

In all seriousness, as another flick driver, I would throw my FL flat at about 80%. It doesn't fade that far right, and would be even better on a hair anhyzer here.

This is the type of hole that has made we want to get my RHBH up to my FH, this screams backhand Champ Leopard at about 90% to me.

 

[imoser_me]

I am not sure what your power range is, but I would take something overstable (Opto Blitz) and rip a low RHBH shot to the right of the large oak. I would expect the disc to hit at 250ish and skip left toward the hole. I have done this shot many times, but the key is aiming the disc at the ground just to the right of the tree. The disc will naturally elevate during the flight. You don't need something massively overstable, but pick something that will start hyzering on a flat line at about 250 so you can get the left skip.

Other options could include a forehand roller with a little cut just to the left of the large oak. It might initially roll close to OB or even OB, but if it isn't cut too much is should roll back to the pin.

Also, you could lay up to the telephone pole with a midrange and set yourself up for an easy approach.

 

[kevinmzane]

forehand roller should be a piece of cake. Take advantage of all that extra space to the right and if thrown properly, rolling back in bounds every time shouldn't be a problem... it looks like if you worked on your bh, it would be a pretty safe shot between the tree and telephone pole with a buzz thrown flat. I could be wrong, but are you sure there isn't room to just throw a big hyzer?

 

[BrotherDave]

I'd throw right at that power pole with hyzer flip that flips all the way over and finishes right. A Monarch or Leo could easily do this.

 

[jongoff09]

I am not sure what your power range is, but I would take something overstable (Opto Blitz) and rip a low RHBH shot to the right of the large oak. I would expect the disc to hit at 250ish and skip left toward the hole. I have done this shot many times, but the key is aiming the disc at the ground just to the right of the tree. The disc will naturally elevate during the flight. You don't need something massively overstable, but pick something that will start hyzering on a flat line at about 250 so you can get the left skip.

Other options could include a forehand roller with a little cut just to the left of the large oak. It might initially roll close to OB or even OB, but if it isn't cut too much is should roll back to the pin.

Also, you could lay up to the telephone pole with a midrange and set yourself up for an easy approach.

Good advice right there^.

If it was me, I would either throw an aviar pretty much right at it, or a wasp right over the path on the right and let it fade toward the basket and maybe skip a bit.

 

[Chucktown]

That's a tough hole. I agree with Kevin, throw a roller, they do have a mind of their own sometimes if you have not thrown them. Throw it overhand tomahawk style with a enough angle that the disc land straight up on it's edge and rolls out straight and fades left.

If you're not comfortable with that you could try an under stable disc that will hyzer flip and throw between that telephone poll and the tree. Maybe a Glide, Fuse, Leopard or something like that.

 

[JamesXC]

I look at this and see a big hyzer line. Those limbs might be in the way, but something overstable and glidey (Teebird/Katana) seems like the right play to me.

 

[lxdawg25]

Big hyzer won't work as it's fairly low ceiling until the large oak.

I use a FH roller as a long distance drive, I don't know if I'd be able to control it enough not to just blow pas the hole. It's used primarily on long open holes where if I don't get the line down perfect it's not that punishing.

As far as the hyzer flip goes, I think that's what I'm trying to accomplish when I say

I have tried anny'ing my monarch to the left of the tree but 9/10 times I hit the tree or telephone pole

but it either hits the telephone pole or doesn't get right far enough which ends up behind the telephone pole, which you can't see there is a gazebo type thing there, really hard to par from over there, trust me I've tried.

It's really frustrating, I just don't have a great BH (I'm working on it I swear) and most of the folks I play with can kill this hole, but I've been averaging in the 3 over to even range and this hole is almost always a bogey for me if not worse. I have started playing with the layup buzz shot in mentality but that really is a "Just don't f this up" mentality and I am not a big fan of approaching holes that way.

 

[lxdawg25]

I look at this and see a big hyzer line. Those limbs might be in the way, but something overstable and glidey (Teebird/Katana) seems like the right play to me.

It's hard to see, but on the right, if you can see where it is blackish is all oak limb. At parts it can even be so low that I can't walk under it. Again if my BH was good enough to hold a low line I'd be alright, but I either get too much elevation or never come back in far enough.

 

[BrotherDave]

Can you BH something overstable with skipability like a XXX around that tree on a low line, maybe skip across the side walk?

Failing that, just flick something less stable than your Wraith.

 

[MNcyclone]

Just keep trying to hit the gentle anny at the pole. That is a bread and butter RHBH shot and you say you want to get better BH. Keep at it and at some point you will get it down. I would recommend a leo until you get a little stronger and then maybe an ion.

 

[Jax11]

From the picture I would throw a low hyzer RHBH with a Champ Teebird. I would rather play out over the OB and come back in rather than chance a FH skip staying in bounds.

I also thought FH roller, but that is a gutsy shot. Ideally I would want to throw the roller wide so it has room to work in, but that means a mistake or a bad spot in the ground could leave you OB not too far off the pad. Plus if you burn the roller too much it could spin out and go back OB, burn it too little and its off to the races OB.

After seeing the limbs in person, if they did take away the RHBH, I would throw a core on a hyzer-flip that turns over a bit and tracks right to the finish.

 

[Skankin77]

I'd personally LHFH it...pretty clean path, but low. RHBH it low?

 

[Smigles]

S-Shot to the left of the tree, right of the telephone pole, right at the basket. Or hyzer on the right around the tree. Hyzer will be harder though because of the low branches. I think the s-shot is the best option. Just take something ultra stable that will for sure fade back left.

Par should not be a problem. Play it extremely chicken with a putter just to the telephone pole, then to the basket, then put. S-Shot can atack for the birdie.

Honestly though, IMO you should just practice your lines more. Sorry There are many different lines on this hole, all of them possible to go for the bird. If you can not make any of them consistently, it's field work time ^^

 

[Violets caddy]

At 270 this should be an ace run, the line you're looking for is the dead straight one from the pad to the pin. It's just going to take some practice, take every disc you own that's not rated crazy overstable and throw them at it over and over. You'll have it down to a drop in duece in no time.

 

[CwAlbino]

Depending on power levels, this shot could be:

low power level:
Throw a leopard or beast on a slight hyzer flip straight at the basket. It should S and finish right at the pin.

Mid power level:
Same shot but with an X Buzzz or dx Roc, something that turns a little but will come back (probably best with a roc, as a beat X Buzzz won't want to come back)

High power level:
Hyzer out over the tops of the trees and the road (not under the branch, out over the top). I'd do it with a predator. Nice easy, predictable hyzer shot should never be OB, and ace runs almost every time.

 

[olemiss5931]

Depending on power levels, this shot could be:

low power level:
Throw a leopard or beast on a slight hyzer flip straight at the basket. It should S and finish right at the pin.

Mid power level:
Same shot but with an X Buzzz or dx Roc, something that turns a little but will come back (probably best with a roc, as a beat X Buzzz won't want to come back)

High power level:
Hyzer out over the tops of the trees and the road (not under the branch, out over the top). I'd do it with a predator. Nice easy, predictable hyzer shot should never be OB, and ace runs almost every time.

From the pic there is no safe hyzer over the trees considering the limbs. And a high power level player wouldn't use a predator for 270. Maybe a drone or wasp.

 

[dreadlock86]

I look at this and see a big hyzer line. Those limbs might be in the way, but something overstable and glidey (Teebird/Katana) seems like the right play to me.

From the picture I would throw a low hyzer RHBH with a Champ Teebird. I would rather play out over the OB and come back in rather than chance a FH skip staying in bounds.

I also thought FH roller, but that is a gutsy shot. Ideally I would want to throw the roller wide so it has room to work in, but that means a mistake or a bad spot in the ground could leave you OB not too far off the pad. Plus if you burn the roller too much it could spin out and go back OB, burn it too little and its off to the races OB.

After seeing the limbs in person, if they did take away the RHBH, I would throw a core on a hyzer-flip that turns over a bit and tracks right to the finish.

I'd personally LHFH it...pretty clean path, but low. RHBH it low?

^^^this
low skip hyzer, aiming right of the sidewalk