2 holes in 1?

[Billipo]

It seems in general having basket options is very confusing to players. You can have as many tees as you like but for some reason multiple baskets is not as accepted. Dunno why.

History says, First ball golf course actually played "out" then back "in" using the same pins. This in effect doubling the number of holes built.

 

[iacas]

History says, First ball golf course actually played "out" then back "in" using the same pins. This in effect doubling the number of holes built.

They played the same greens, usually with two holes cut per green, not the same hole played out and back.

St. Andrews (Old Course) is still largely comprised of double greens.

 

[Jimb]

They played the same greens, usually with two holes cut per green, not the same hole played out and back.

St. Andrews (Old Course) is still largely comprised of double greens.

This is a pretty scary proposition as far as I'm concerned. A little griplock here, a little extra hyzer there... can you say "FOOOOUUUUUURRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!"

 

[Peterb]

it works best when you have two different colored baskets on each hole. Soon enough, you'll find alternate tees and could make it really fun. Hard to make safe on a popular course though.

 

[mashnut]

Or two different brands of baskets. If you have a discatcher with the band for one set and any other kind of basket for the other set it's real easy to tell the long and short basket from one another.

 

[Mando]

I'm doing something similar with the course I'm currently designing: http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78202

You'll see the gold layout combines 2 holes to make one longer one.

When I tried to explain this concept (with a finished example) during a round a couple of years ago, Martin Dewgarita had a classic response, "Is that an actual hole, or an idea" ?

 

[THE GOV'NA]

hudson mills in dexter michigan has some multi pin,multi pad holes

 

[DavidSauls]

Stoney Hill includes one of these designs. In one layout it's two different holes of 223' and 476'; in the longer layout, they're combined for one 714' hole.

You can get away with a lot on a lightly-played private course.

 

[BogeyNoMore]

hudson mills in dexter michigan has some multi pin,multi pad holes

But the way the course plays and the way these are on the holes, thy aren't confusing at all, and can't be called a saftey issue.

Lemon Lake Silver/Gold has a boatload of dual tees/dual pins painted silver and yellow/gold accordingly.
I hear http://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=4756does this too.

 

[mashnut]

Carly's playground has blue and pink tees and blue and pink baskets for each hole, meaning 4 potential shots for each of the 18 holes. It's well marked so no confusion on what you're shooting at.

 

[tallpaul]

^^^I joined mash for that round at Carly's; and it is done very well there.

 

[Mando]

Carly's playground has blue and pink tees and blue and pink baskets for each hole, meaning 4 potential shots for each of the 18 holes. It's well marked so no confusion on what you're shooting at.

I love this concept especially for public courses with heavy local traffic, but I also feel strongly that courses also often have only one ideal pad location and one ideal pin location per hole when it comes to designing epic holes. So designing 2/1 supercourse holes can give you variety without diluting the quality on private courses without much traffic...and much cheaper !

 

[Jimb]

I love this concept especially for public courses with heavy local traffic, but I also feel strongly that courses also often have only one ideal pad location and one ideal pin location per hole when it comes to designing epic holes. So designing 2/1 supercourse holes can give you variety without diluting the quality on private courses without much traffic...and much cheaper !

It's interesting that you mention private courses. I've been doing this recently with my home course. The limited (very limited... no... extremely limited) traffic makes it totally feasible in my case. I've been able to create some totally legit, fun and challenging par 4s by skipping the normal basket and carrying on to another basket. So in this type of setting, where safety is a total non-issue, it can work really well.

 

[dk59]

can you say "FOOOOUUUUUURRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!"

No I would rather say FORE!

 

[Jimb]

No I would rather say FORE!

No... I meant hole #4... really...

JK!!! DOH!!!! I hate it when I do stupid stuff like that. Thanks for the catch.

 

[Mando]

Some 2/1 holes work out great, others are ok and some just don't work at all.
Here is the current supercourse layout at Sugaree;
1
*2-3
4
*5-6
7
8-9
10-11
12-13
14-15
16-17
20-18
19-20
21-16
22-23
*24-25

*new holes that have not been played yet.

 

[sloppydisc]

That last one is pretty ill IMO. You are a sick man Mando.

 

[mashnut]

Some 2/1 holes work out great, others are ok and some just don't work at all.
Here is the current supercourse layout at Sugaree;
1
*2-3
4
*5-6
7
8-9
10-11
12-13
14-15
16-17
20-18
19-20
21-16
22-23
*24-25

*new holes that have not been played yet.

Looking at the course pictures, that looks totally brutal (in an awesome way)!

 

[Mando]

Looking at the course pictures, that looks totally brutal (in an awesome way)!

It is totally brutal...only about 10 people ever played the original 12 supercourse holes... it was always doubles and never pretty. Sloppy is in that elite club. Most people want no part of a steady diet of 600-800 foot holes through tight woods, but I'm not giving up.
Just needs more tweaking.
The nice thing is that you can throw in any number of supercourse holes into a round to change things up and I can envision a couple combined sc holes becoming regular holes-(2&3 and 8&9).

 

[DavidSauls]

I've always loved this concept---a bunch of holes in pairs that can be two shorter holes, or 1 epic hole, so that you can mix-&-match to create a layout.