They could play a tight course and have four groups-top MPO, top FPO, best kids under 21, and best geezers over 40. Have some sort of handicap system so it's fairly even. You get the best of today, yesterday, and tomorrow all in one place.
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Yeah. Maybe see more of this:
*/Contemplates selling all discs for $100 each, signed or not, since a 5 year old has a better forehand than I do...
Except Sunday (or final round) ... just like everything else, I am guessing...
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Haven't you learned to use the excuse: "Of course he's better than me, he's still young. I could probably have done it back when I was that age."
DannyS
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Is there a course preview anywhere for the setup they are using this weekend? Maybe a caddy book or something? Looking to kill some time at work today 
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Is there a course preview anywhere for the setup they are using this weekend? Maybe a caddy book or something? Looking to kill some time at work today
So far, haven't seen anything like that available on DGN.
They have the draft today at 8pm Eastern.
Maybe they'll give a course preview then.
I sent this to someone else earlier today:
Holes that I think will average at or over par: 2, 10, maybe 13 depending on the elevation, 17, and oh my hole 18.
I wonder, based on hole 18 above and hole 12 at the match play championship last year (the last hole there), it seems like the DGPT wants their final holes to be very difficult compared to where they set par.
Holes that I think will average at or over par: 2, 10, maybe 13 depending on the elevation, 17, and oh my hole 18.
I wonder, based on hole 18 above and hole 12 at the match play championship last year (the last hole there), it seems like the DGPT wants their final holes to be very difficult compared to where they set par.
So 12 of the 18 holes are the same for MPO and FPO? Seems off.
DannyS
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Here are the teams that were drafted last night:
FPO
Team Paige Pierce
Missy Gannon
Hailey King
Kona Panis
Ohn Scoggins
Heather Young
Madison Walker
Team Catrina Allen
Sarah Hokom
Holly Finley
Jessica Weese
Lisa Fajkus
Deann Carey
Rebecca Cox
MPO
Team Eagle McMahon
Chris Dickerson
Kevin Jones
Drew Gibson
Garret Gurthie
Gannon Buhr
Nikko Locastro
Team Calvin Heimburg
Adam Hammes
Kyle Klein
James Conrad
Matt Orum
Ezra Aderhold
Paul Ulibarri
FPO
Team Paige Pierce
Missy Gannon
Hailey King
Kona Panis
Ohn Scoggins
Heather Young
Madison Walker
Team Catrina Allen
Sarah Hokom
Holly Finley
Jessica Weese
Lisa Fajkus
Deann Carey
Rebecca Cox
MPO
Team Eagle McMahon
Chris Dickerson
Kevin Jones
Drew Gibson
Garret Gurthie
Gannon Buhr
Nikko Locastro
Team Calvin Heimburg
Adam Hammes
Kyle Klein
James Conrad
Matt Orum
Ezra Aderhold
Paul Ulibarri
seedlings
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The FPO leans slightly toward Paige's squad, but I'd give Calvin's team the definite putting advantage on MPO unless Drew is hitting everything inside 100'.
I also like how it's Discmania vs Innova MPO captains.
Yeah, 6, 8, 10, and 13 will average at or above par for FPO I think. That's not news though; many times FPO is too hard. It's news that MPO is hard. I like it, and I think it's a good idea for the DGPT to head toward harder holes. They'll inevitably miss and design some holes that are too hard. But the vast amount of tour holes are "too easy" compared to par.
I think it's especially true when you take only the top 20-25% of players, that if any of these holes average above par, the DGPT has an interest in making harder holes.
Nale72
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Just completed Dannys list with which skill competitions they will be doing:
A: Accuracy
D: Distance
P: Putting
A: Accuracy
D: Distance
P: Putting
Huk Finn
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Heimburg's energy on that stage was contagious.
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No, not the vast majority. Just a fraction.
For the events that drew the top players in 2021, only about one out of six MPO pars were lower than suggested by the PDGA Par Guidelines. (And about 1% were higher.)
For FPO, the pars are often spot-on.
Even if you think pars should be set for the skills of 1050-rated players, only one-third of the pars at these events would be changed.
Thanks Steve. I should have stated my thoughts more clearly. When I said
I was saying that the vast majority of holes average under par. I see how "too easy" doesn't communicate that. People aren't precise with language (people = me).
Can you run your numbers and give a breakdown of holes in elite series events (or whatever you think is best, such as "events with top players) in groups of .25 strokes? for instance,
20% of holes averaged greater than .5 strokes below par
20% of holes averaged between .5 and .25 strokes below par
40% of holes averaged between .25 strokes below par and par
15% of holes averaged between par and .25 strokes above par
4% of holes averaged between .25 and .5 strokes above par
1% of holes averaged greater than .5 strokes above par.
The above stats are inaccurate, they're simply an example of the information I'd like to see. Please, for the sake of confusion, misquote me and state these as facts.
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Here's an idea for the skills competition in the future, possibly. How about an Ace Race? Set up holes at easily aceable distances, say starting at 250 & gradually moving out. And since Discraft is a sponsor of this years All-Star tourney, maybe they can throw their name on this portion of the games, as well. It's a funsies tourney anyway, I'd love to see folks trying to blow up chains. The con side to that is, I've heard, some hitters after being in a homerun derby have their swing messed up for a spell. Maybe that would translate to an Ace Race too? Just a thought.
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