[Innova] Champion TL+??

[Rol6566]

Just for clarification,

L = leopard bottom.

Several people have mentioned it, this is the correct definition of "L". Several discs were produced with the Leopard bottom:

Starfire w/ Leopard Bottom = SL
Firebird w/ Leopard Bottom = FL
Teebird w/ Leopard Bottom = TL
Eagle w/ Leopard bottom = EL

Wrong

 

[Sid the Kid]

Just for clarification,

L = leopard bottom.

Several people have mentioned it, this is the correct definition of "L". Several discs were produced with the Leopard bottom:

Starfire w/ Leopard Bottom = SL
Firebird w/ Leopard Bottom = FL
Teebird w/ Leopard Bottom = TL
Eagle w/ Leopard bottom = EL

I'm not buying that. If you compare a Leopard to any of the other L mold discs you will notice the L molds have flat wings and the Leopard has a little bead on the bottom kinda like a Predator but to a lesser extent.

There is no definitive to answer to what L =. Merely speculation. But hey, who cares? They are longer and less overstable and leopard and luxurious and loving.

Now if we can just figure out what the J in JLS stands for.

 

[Sid the Kid]

Good call on that. I think you're right concerning the Leopard bottom.

BUT!!!

I have just confirmed with my sources, that there is also a more rare disc with the leopard bottom.

the LL.

Seriously though, I'd love to try a Leopard X.

 

[MNcyclone]

Seriously though, I'd love to try a Leopard X.

I always think of pre-barry leopards as leopard-L, and 2x barry leopards as leopard-X

 

[steve a]

Millennium released a disc with the leopard bottom and what looks like a banshee top. I think it is the only other disc to use the leopard bottom. It was never approved when it was released. I think it was called the lfx.

 

[optidiscic]

whats the difference between an L and a +.....I thought the + was a way to change the mold so that once in champion production would perform more like the original mold rather than be an overstable version.....I don't think it has really worked out from what I've heard.

the Leo rumor is such an urban legend that won't die...lol
someone is confusing the X mold with the + mold and arguing based on that premise...lol
Trey...what makes you think you know anything about Innova discs....lol...btw where can I get an LL

 

[optidiscic]

whats funny is some players love the + molds....so if the disc earns fans and doesnt fly like it was intended is that really a failure? more choices is better imo

 

[steve a]

whats the difference between an L and a +.....I thought the + was a way to change the mold so that once in champion production would perform more like the original mold rather than be an overstable version.....I don't think it has really worked out from what I've heard.

the Leo rumor is such an urban legend that won't die...lol
someone is confusing the X mold with the + mold and arguing based on that premise...lol
Trey...what makes you think you know anything about Innova discs....lol...btw where can I get an LL

The + stands for a slanted inner rim.

 

[optidiscic]

So is the disc more understable or are players messing up their release?

 

[steve a]

whats funny is some players love the + molds....so if the disc earns fans and doesnt fly like it was intended is that really a failure? more choices is better imo

Not when they change a disc but don't label it as a + rim. When you order a disc online it is now a crap shoot if you will get that disc or whatever disc Innova felt like making for that run.

 

[MNcyclone]

So is the disc more understable or are players messing up their release?

+ rims on Valks and TeeBirds tend to make them have more neutral HSS and more late LSS.

I don't believe it messes up my release at all. In fact I was killing my Valk + yesterday to the tune of 440' (results not typical, having a strong week) so I think it is safe to say release can be just fine with the + rim. The + rim sticks to my stubby fingers better than the regular rim.

 

[Sid the Kid]

someone is confusing the X mold with the + mold and arguing based on that premise...lol

If you are refering to me than the lol is on you.

 

[steve a]

Trey...what makes you think you know anything about Innova discs....lol...btw where can I get an LL

You making fun of him for a lack of disc knowledge is almost as funny as him trying to clarify.

 

[Trey133]

You can find an LL at most PIAS locations, Disc Retailers, and Online.

Search for "Leopard".

 

[optidiscic]

You making fun of him for a lack of disc knowledge is almost as funny as him trying to clarify.

you making fun of me for making fun of him for his lack of disc knowledge is even funnier...:doh:

 

[New013]

Just for the record, this thread is even more ridiculous now.

...L stands for leopard...? That was some beautiful trolling.

The idea that taking one disc and making it slightly more/less stable by introducing a new rim/plastic will just make it the exact same as another disc is half retarded. More stable TLs are not Tbirds, theyre just TLs with a HSS that's much closer to a Tbird.

 

[Trey133]

Just for the record, this thread is even more ridiculous now.

...L stands for leopard...? That was some beautiful trolling.

The idea that taking one disc and making it slightly more/less stable by introducing a new rim/plastic will just make it the exact same as another disc is half retarded. More stable TLs are not Tbirds, theyre just TLs with a HSS that's much closer to a Tbird.

Trolls = lols

 

[New013]

^^^^shhhh...

 

[Trey133]

In all due seriousness, the champ tl+ isn't half bad if you are comfortable with plus rims. Its large on the domey side but is pretty straight out of the box.

Not as stable as its cfr counterparts.

 

[Sid the Kid]

Do you have one you are willing to part with?