Fission Insanity--overstable?

[User061824]

I was looking for an understable control driver, saw a lot of love for the Insanity, and really liked the plastic/feel of the Axiom at my local store.

I ended up having a choice between heavy (mid 170's) Proton plastic and very light (low 130's) Fission discs. After discussing expected usage with a rep (who, granted, may have been trying to move one or the other) and getting the feel, I went with the Fission.

For my aging shoulder, the lightness feels really good on the throw so far, but it seems really overstable. My best throws are around 300'. I'm sure that part of the disc behavior could be under-powering, i.e. having perhaps a 7 speed arm throwing a 9 speed disc. Still, the overstability is not at all subtle. No worries--I've already practiced some anhyzer flex shots with it, for which it seems very suitable. I'll keep working on release angle (and arm speed), but there's no hyzer flipping this one for me as new--it will follow a hyzer release to the ground.

Is it the weight? The plastic? My arm?

 

[elmexdela]

ive never thrown a 130 insanity but the heavy class usually starts out as minimal turn at 300ft and once it gets a little beat it gets into that nice hyzerflip range

i used to have a 150 interia that was some easy d

personally as i age the lighter discs are moar preferable but they just suck in the wind

 

[Mike C]

The Insanity, in max weight at least, doesn't turn under 300'.

I'd check out some of their slower drivers.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

I'm pretty infatuated with the rhythms right now, 7 5 -2 1 . I used 155 inertia for quite a while since it was their first high speed controllable driver available at that low a weight, supposedly it's more stable than an insanity but it really depends on the run.

I had trouble with some of the insanity being too beefy especially with 2 or 3 pp pfn beat in inertia around. the cosmic neutron se insanity were beasts. Almost literally.

The fission rhythm is a solid thrower and at light weights I can get an easy roller.. heavy neutron and its more valkyrie ish. IMO rhythm, inertia, insanity (and some light plasma waves and vanishes) are all fairly interchangeable in about that order of stability.

 

[User061824]

It turns out it was my form—nose up and poor follow through. The old insanity turns out to be flippy as hell and I ended up getting a heavier one (160) in neutron. Depending on the winds, I bag either that or a Tesla.

 

[User061824]

I'm pretty infatuated with the rhythms right now, 7 5 -2 1 . I used 155 inertia for quite a while since it was their first high speed controllable driver available at that low a weight, supposedly it's more stable than an insanity but it really depends on the run.

I had trouble with some of the insanity being too beefy especially with 2 or 3 pp pfn beat in inertia around. the cosmic neutron se insanity were beasts. Almost literally.

The fission rhythm is a solid thrower and at light weights I can get an easy roller.. heavy neutron and its more valkyrie ish. IMO rhythm, inertia, insanity (and some light plasma waves and vanishes) are all fairly interchangeable in about that order of stability.

I never see rhythms in the store. It would probably be a great disc for me.

 

[Monocacy]

For my increasingly-noodly arm 150s Fission Insanity is my understable distance driver. Other plastics - Plasma, Neutron - in similar weights are more turney-fadey for me.

 

[lee76007]

Fission Insanity SE 161g LHBH is versatile. Normally stays left Center. During the winter great all wind disc, and can handle headwind up to 25 mph. Now that the wind has calmed, taking it to wooded courses and can hit gaps. I would call it stable.

Also have a Proton Insanity dead straight finishing fade. And recently a Second Lab Eclipse Insanity, I would call it slightly overstable. Plasma I've had for two years my Workhorse 9 speed in wooded courses. Love throwing standstills with it. It's stable on a slight turn finishing fade.

 

[waltny]

Glad to hear you got it figured out. As an older guy who has been rebuilding the form from a a standstill, I love those 150ish fission instanitys and the like in that range. I'm amazed you found a 130ish one, the only thing close I've found an old pat pending photon that scales 137 that can do some crazy lines.
Also, don't be scare to try photon, defy or anything else in fission as they can and do bomb at slower arm speeds.

 

[lee76007]

Update: Decided I wanted heavier in the Fission Insanity and more firm as in new. Reading my previous post I forget to mention the 161g SE was used flippy and can waiver. Picked up a stock 164g the weight difference not a big deal, but firmer in last weeks 20 mph Plus headwind, steady. No longer have the SE.

Same with the Eclipse Insanity, no longer have it would fade away, not much distance.

New in the bag shortly after my previous post a Neutron Insanity 166g for wooded courses, and been teaming up with it a Neutron Inertia 166g the past 6 weeks, just hitting gaps with them depending on the line. Just came home from a heavily wooded ravine course with elevation, 4800 feet shorts, 2nd round longs 9700 feet not having to pull out my Neutron Wave. The control was so much better.

 

[ThrowaEnvy]

Mot a huge insanity guy but that won't stop me from having an opinion.... got a 150 fission a while back, nice turn, its what I thought an insanity should be, stockpiled on cosmic neutron 158g a while back before that with the Absorb81 stamp. They are very stable but capable of a little turn they fly like a long tesla for me. A very long tesla... I throw it on an angle and it glides the whole way, even as it is fighting out which is at least half the flight. Super straight hill climber when I release it 30 degrees over.

Pat pending light photons are nothing like stock ones, they are a magical treasure and there is nothing like them.

 

[waltny]

I have at least one of those old pat pending lighter proton (167) insanitys(I swear I have another around here…) I pulled it out of used bin down in Florida around Christmas of 2015. It's a gift that keeps on giving.