Form review request

[sidewinder22]

I think it looks better than before. Your upper arm is collapsing too much and pulling the disc down over your left shoulder. Grip might need some work, that looks like crazy deep thumb placement.
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3440757&postcount=4
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137985

You either need to stride more outside-in like GG or PP, or stride more inside-out like Lizotte. You are just striding diagonally outward without ever kicking inward. Try planting more into your toes/instep first and knee more over toes/instep. You plant kind of flat footed and knee more over or behind your heel.

 

[Bush122]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnq-7kZe6Rw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWZ6AgsTiCc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVA6b9MXieo

Slowed down a bit today, managed to get onto my front leg a little better & stop planting so open. Couldn't repeat it when powering up but that's okay, it'll take some time.

Still need to fix my stride & upper arm angle collapsing. Any ideas for the upper arm angle? Seems like I might be strong-arming it right as I start the swing and messing everything up. Probably have to go throw a hammer...

The grip thing is something I've started to fix recently (at least I think...). Was trying the DFP grip from that thread a while back and don't think I got it right - still have some remnants of issues from that.

 

[sidewinder22]

I think you are planting too backward and not really able to brace up properly against the horizontal motion on the front hip allowing the shoulder to swing/release forward past the hip and over the knee. Your shoulder barely moves/swings any linear distance from top of backswing to release and gets jacked back up behind the hip. You want to make your shoulder swing much longer linearly back and forth inside your centered posture.

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136487

 

[Bush122]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOWBAHCkAQk

Couple of days working on this in the field - seems to be some improvement on the dingle arm at least.

Not settling on the brace well - need to be more patient & get my feet more closed in the x-step. Shoulders are opening too early.

Anything else?

 

[sidewinder22]

Looking better with the swing. Your x-step looks stiff and staccato, instead of more relaxed and fluid. Hard to tell from this angle, but might be some anterior pelvic tilt or S-posture issue as your spine appears extended while Eagle's spine is in flexion.

Note how your feet have separated while your knees are pinched together and CoG stalls behind. Eagle's CoG has lead the stride and knees have separated away from each other leading the foot separation or kick. Note how Eagle's disc is further back, so in drill your disc is too close to your rear foot and not loading/relaxing back enough.

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[Bush122]

Got back out there before the sun went down today. Feel like a lot of my problems are stemming from my left-ward drift, which is clearly visible in the view from behind I took today. Would make some sense why I was having that funky upper arm issues too (which is still somewhat there) - I'm getting in the way of my own swing!

Not quite sure how to fix it - is it about getting my cross step out of my own way? Is it driving my weight more towards the target off the rear instep?

My discs at least feel like they're coming out with more oomph, but I'm still sitting ~high 300's most of the time.

Behind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntDt59vrdIs

side 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNv57weK66w

side 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6pIHh2TUg4

Feedback appreciated as always!

 

[sidewinder22]

Easier to feel and fix without doing x-step. You aren't getting your rear hip back to leverage yourself forward - buttwipe/hogan power move/clearing the hips.
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134177
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133543

 

[Bush122]

Haven't been able to throw in a month. Went out to play a few rounds this weekend and it was very very ugly. Felt like I lost any progress with my arm and was basically just flailing to throw the disc all day. Got out for a little field work this morning and think I got some of it back, but the weight shift is still not right. I think I'm just pushing my whole body forward (well, 45 degrees to the left of forward) with my back foot instead of letting my rear hip clear & wipe forward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGtOgqulg8U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oLfnVcnAf0

As always, thoughts & comments appreciated

 

[sidewinder22]

Posture and balance. You are setting up flat footed and stuck between your feet with spine extended and shoulders retracted. Note how I'm setting up balanced on front foot with flexed spine and shoulders hanging protracted forward and chin/chest more over disc.
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134167

Note how your shoulders tip over your hips with your spine and rear hip extended. Note how Will and my hips are leading with spine tilted back hinged at rear hip and pulled back into flexion. So we are doing the door frame drill here quite different - your shoulders/upper body weight are pulling the door frame, while Will and my lower body are pulling the door frame and the door frame is pulling the shoulders/upper body back.

 

[Bush122]

Ugh, yeah. Constant struggle with that. For a while I kept tipping over my toes, so I tried to get my weight further back more towards the middle of my feet. May have overcorrected or may have improperly addressed the issue!

To get your shoulders hanging/protracted like that, should it just be setting up in an athletic stance? I'm imagining setting up like when I played outfield in my baseball days but on the front leg instead of 2 legs.

Also wonder if the plant angle of my back foot is too backwards again - I was having trouble pushing my weight down the target line a lot. Body would just compensate from there. Standing in my office & quickly moving around a bit it feels like I'm more able to get my hips to lead when that angle is more shallow too. Seem reasonable, or is there something else I'm missing?

 

[sidewinder22]

Pretty much. Everything needs to happen in dynamic motion. So when you are standing static at the start you should be upright balanced. Then when you start moving you can bend into more dynamic athletic posture or position. People have a tendency to start static in already bent posture which just disrupts flow and makes it harder to start moving or breaking inertia.

 

[Bush122]

Weather here has finally calmed down and I found some time to do a little field work. Have definitely lost some stuff since last fall, but I think I'm starting to get it back as everything warms up.

Some standstill/one-steppers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBsYBPSWutE

And an xstep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heA9lo2Chi8

Appreciate any feedback/tips as always!

 

[sidewinder22]

Your upper body is tipping over as your rear leg extends into the plant, instead of hinging/sitting into rear hip and buttwiping the hips forward underneath upper body.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxnhM5amro0#t=1m14s

 

[Bush122]

Haven't been able to play nearly as much with a lot going on elsewhere in life unfortunately, and have definitely lost ground from a few months ago. But had some time to go practice last night and felt like it was at least a good step.

Still tipping the top of my body over, and back leg is definitely pushing off the heel instead of calf. Also feels like I'm throwing a lot of nose up. Any feedback on this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yy_fD0ZXU4

On second review, just looks like absolutely no door frame drill in my body. Bleh. Oh well, that's what no practice will do!

 

[Bush122]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UJzTouvrW8

Some door frame drill from this evening - could I get some feedback on this? Feels like some progress but doesn't feel 100% right. I'm definitely feeling more contorted & getting pressure on the outside of my left hip.

Also, realized while reading old posts that my grip was off again - wasn't getting the thumb forward, and think that was causing a lot of my nose up issues. Going to try and get out tomorrow if I can find the time to test that out again.

 

[sidewinder22]

1. You need to totally relax your arm and upper body into the drill - hang from the door frame and bounce around a little.

2. This should help allow you move your whole stance more northwest diagonal closer inline with hand and target. Play around with your rear foot placement, closer inline with hand and walk it closer to target, pulling your body taut like bungie or bow and arrow. There should be a point where you walk too far away from door frame and get stuck and can't leverage your mass/butt against it anymore.

Note how your elbow is over rear foot, while my shoulder is pulled back over rear foot. Also note how your spine is extended/tense, while mine is relaxed and pulled back into flexion, I can hang there all day long.

 

[Bush122]

Tried again today - I think this is better? I'm wondering if I was overrotating my hips, making it all feel powerful but not actually being powerful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Dc1m2v4sw

 

[sidewinder22]

Your stance looked better inline or east/west wise.

You need to walk your rear foot north, closer to target. Hold the frame and walk it out to target.

The first setup/view your butt should probably be able to touch the other wall. This is probably not enough space for proper drilling, but might be good to try and hit your butt on other wall.

 

[Bush122]

https://youtu.be/gGNUqg4WQvY

Tried it in my room with a little more space. I'm definitely feeling a bit stumped here - I'm not sure what really i should be looking to feel. So far I'm feeling a lot of it in my back/shoulder, like a stretch. But I'm struggling to actually feel myself really leverage the ground in any way, it just feels like all upper body

I think my shoulder depth here starts to look better at least? But it still seems to me that I'm really turning my hips instead of hinging into them.

 

[sidewinder22]

First part looked good. I think you ended up stepping too far away when you did the second go.
Start tall and fall targetward. Door frame should pull/turn you away as you stride forward. You are sitting static too long at the end instead of breaking the rope with your weight moving and swinging forward like slingshot from the frame.