podskiii
Par Member
I just saw "Forming the Whip" by Overthrow Disc Golf.
My personal opinion is, they make a lot of great videos. Anyways this video one made me unsure. One of the things I'm practicing, is getting a deeper pocket and I want to understand this concept better.
Briefly, my opinion is that if you're too smooth/slack in your shoulder/arm, your rotation will win over the arm (shoulder will drive the arm), and you will never get into the pocket because rotation of upperbody will win. If you are stiffer in shoulder/arm, arm will win against against shoulder rotation.
I think Spin Doctor covers this, and I agree. However, when I practice this drill, I don't get deep into my pocket. My thoughts on shoulder/arm being stiff is that arm will win against rotation (arm starts the rotation).
If I try to get the elbow more out, or even force the curl to happen I get a much deeper pocket as he talks about around 3:39
I feel I got something out of this drill.
In general I've seen a lot of video that talks about out-in-out, this will release the disc around 11 o'clock. This is what I've been trying to accomplish. When Josh talks about his concept, that will be more of a 12 o'clock release. I feel this will get inconsistent releases? How will this affect brace when you almost release behind you instead of out at 11 o'clock?
At 5:58 I get that a deep pocket gets created if he hold back the rotation of the shoulder. However is this a natural move? Is this something all the pros learned by themselves when they started playing disc golf and evolve by themselves?
However, I don't disagree with OT at all, I'm just trying to widen my knowledge. I also start to wonder if there are more ways to throw a disc which is correct?
My personal opinion is, they make a lot of great videos. Anyways this video one made me unsure. One of the things I'm practicing, is getting a deeper pocket and I want to understand this concept better.
Briefly, my opinion is that if you're too smooth/slack in your shoulder/arm, your rotation will win over the arm (shoulder will drive the arm), and you will never get into the pocket because rotation of upperbody will win. If you are stiffer in shoulder/arm, arm will win against against shoulder rotation.
I think Spin Doctor covers this, and I agree. However, when I practice this drill, I don't get deep into my pocket. My thoughts on shoulder/arm being stiff is that arm will win against rotation (arm starts the rotation).
If I try to get the elbow more out, or even force the curl to happen I get a much deeper pocket as he talks about around 3:39
I feel I got something out of this drill.
In general I've seen a lot of video that talks about out-in-out, this will release the disc around 11 o'clock. This is what I've been trying to accomplish. When Josh talks about his concept, that will be more of a 12 o'clock release. I feel this will get inconsistent releases? How will this affect brace when you almost release behind you instead of out at 11 o'clock?
At 5:58 I get that a deep pocket gets created if he hold back the rotation of the shoulder. However is this a natural move? Is this something all the pros learned by themselves when they started playing disc golf and evolve by themselves?
However, I don't disagree with OT at all, I'm just trying to widen my knowledge. I also start to wonder if there are more ways to throw a disc which is correct?