Jesse B 707 said:
roman said:
Wow, more glide than the Monarch? I have to try this disc, even if it is flippy as all hell. The glide on the Monarch still impresses me every time I throw it.
NO please dont try it. the amount of height these things need to even think about fading back is unrealistic on 99.9% of golf holes. i was throwing them on almost a 45 degree hyzer and they would still turn into a roller
If I recall correctly the EGR Helios you threw wasn't max weight. What was it? I imagine that a max weight Helios might work for finessed long throws. There's a mouthful and a contradiction if there ever was one
I've intentionally passed on the EGR in wait of FGR that was promised to ship to the States this week by mattlock on the PDGA forum. I was mainly thinking these for hyzer flip max D and throwing under branches low to the ground for getting out of trouble. meaning where you lack room to throw properly.
I've been looking at Monarchs keenly too. I just don't know which weight to get. Locally 173-175 are available but I've read that weight for weight Roadrunner flies farther. It's just gonna beat quickly to unpredictable and flippy while not rolling well. IME. Since Monarchs come in lower weights I think I want a minimum weight one if I can handle a heavy one. Don't know anyone who has one so I'll probably get one heavy locally and decide afterward if I dare to try a light one. I'm gonna get a Helios FGR for max D just don't know if EGR glides farther as happens with many other molds.
I'm afraid that a monarch overlaps with my 174 Opto Vision which is a slightly better Sidewinder in flight. More predictable. Might be longer though. Vision is almost as picky about all angles as a Sidewinder for max D and really isn't that long. Easy to get far if angles are correct meaning needs little power. Unfortunately it gets very demanding of angles if full power is applied. I've got discs already that are longer than the Vision.