Need some disc advice

[TheAWO]

I'm looking to try out some new plastic this season. I've been playing dg for the past two summers and my drives are topping out at around 375-400 with my ESP Surges thrown with an S curve. Are there other discs I should try out to get more distance, or should I make the move to a hyzer flip (i've got a pretty beat sidewinder and I heard it's a good disc for that).

Also I'm looking for a new putter, I've been playing with this prob 10 year old rattler I got used from a friend, I'm a former ultimate player so I would like my putter to be pretty stable and fly similar to an ultrastar, any tips?

 

[mambrose]

i would try a magnet or a challenger as a putter

 

[Craton]

i would try a magnet or a challenger as a putter

Second! ^^ Although, I push the magnet way more, but that's just me.

As for drivers, Surge is not a bad one to be using to get distance out of. Honestly, I have a friend who can snap a Wraith to get it to S-line, but he caps out around the low 300's. With what you're throwing, the Surge that is, you probably have great snap, but just need to work on putting in a little more arm speed. One big question though: What weight Surges are you throwing? IF you want to do Hyze-flips, maybe finding a surge in a lighter weight wouldn't be too bad to hyze flip. Or if you are feeling REALLY gutsy, a 150/160's R-Pro Boss for hyze-flipping is just insane for some distance.

Or, you can just get a Katana and screw all the training/form stuff and add 20 feet to your drive easy- who knows.

 

[SirRaph]

If you're looking for max distance, it's going to depend on your power. An S-Curve up to 400 is pretty far, so I'll just assume you have the arm speed for the following discs:

Katana - It's been called a Sidewinder on steroids. It's high-speed understable enough that a 400' huck can flip it up, especially as it beats in. It's uber fast. It's my longest disc for hyzer flips.

DiscMania pD (Power Driver) - It's basically a super duper TeeBird. It's extremely controllable, but has some serious distance to it. It may be difficult for you to flip over until it beats in, but either way, it's a great disc.

 

[heyteej]

The Avenger SS is also a great disc for learning the hyzer-flip, although it's not going to go nearly as far as a Katana. I keep my SS in my bag for a roller; once you get the hyzer-flip form down, you can try the form out with a different disc and keep the Avenger SS to learn rollers!

 

[BrotherDave]

I'm looking to try out some new plastic this season. I've been playing dg for the past two summers and my drives are topping out at around 375-400 with my ESP Surges thrown with an S curve. Are there other discs I should try out to get more distance, or should I make the move to a hyzer flip (i've got a pretty beat sidewinder and I heard it's a good disc for that).

Also I'm looking for a new putter, I've been playing with this prob 10 year old rattler I got used from a friend, I'm a former ultimate player so I would like my putter to be pretty stable and fly similar to an ultrastar, any tips?

Hmm, 375-400 is solid D for most courses if it's accurate. If you want an all out bomber disc, I'd try a Pro Destroyer or something similar. For hyzer-flips I'd just beat in one of your Surges, they flip pretty well. If that doesn't suit you, try a Z Surge SS. SWs are good for hyzerflips but I doubt you'll get more D than with your Surges.

Putters are really personal, if you want something similar to an Ultrastar, I'd recommend an Ion or Voodoo b/c of the rounded rims or an APX/Reef for a dead nuts straight putter with tons of glide.

 

[sloppydisc]

My max drive is probably 300' so I can't help you there. With your distance you can win on any course. Hit more lines and be more accurate.

As for putters I love the Wizard as do many others. Buy a SS and give it a try. I went form crappy putter to OK instantly. You just gotta know what your style is, and find a disc that fits your hand well, then go practice. I've also seen people that don't like a stable putter do really well with a Magic. Depends on your style. Voodoo, Aviar, Challenger, Magnet etc are all good too. That new Ion sounds good too. Good luck.

 

[keltik]

I'm at your same distance level. I can hit a controlled 375 with just about any driver (only difference is slower discs need more height). most faster discs are not going to add much more distance than your surge. I can't really speak for the new super discs like the Nuke/Katana etc. a Valkyrie is a good hyzer-flip disc. but discs like the SW and the Valk sometimes won't come back from the flip if they are too beat. your beat SW may be more of a roller now. a beat version of your favorite distance driver is usually a better choice for a hyzer flip disc.

as far as a putter i don't know what you're looking for. when I think stable putter I think KC Pro Aviar, Challenger and Wizard. but your definition of stable may be different. If you want a dead nuts straight putter I would go with a Magnet, APX, Pure, Aviar P&A, or a Summit. all of these will have a lot more drop than an Ultrastar. the Rattler will float more like a lid than any other putter. you may just want to try a brand new Rattler

 

[tstack10]

Katana and nuke are really just longer for anyone. Katana has more left to right action while the nuke I use more for huge hyzer with tons of skip with it's huge rim.

As for putter I would have to say a voodoo with rounded edge. But it really is personal.

Has anyone ever seen someone good at putting with an ultrastar or ultimate disc.

 

[Strauss]

The lighter weight Surge's hyzer-flip really well. I have 2 relatively new ESP Surge's, one 174g and the other is 166g. The 174g Surge is lightly overstable for me, as in it won't pop flat when thrown with a bit of hyzer. If I throw it flat and hard it will "S" a VERY little bit before fading strongly. My 166g Surge on the other hand is a hyzer-flip machine. I can't throw it with decent power without giving it hyzer or it will flip right and never come back. I can get some serious distance outta that baby on a hyzer-flip, and it goes far without having to throw it 100%. I'm sure a lighter weight version of what you already have will get you a little bit more distance.

 

[cbeckett22]

There isn't a better putter than the Aviar, IMO. The DX flies very straight and Champ/Star is a little more stable. As for hyzer flip drivers.. Beast, Valkyrie, Leopard, TL.. I like those. Also new Monarchs, Sidewinders, and Roadrunners are good, but, with your distance, will end up continuing to turn right once beaten in.

 

[jtencer]

Surge's will get out there. You might get a little more D switching to a Nuke (They're about the same stability) but honestly they work about the same for me.

As far as the putter goes, you should try an apx and a putt'r. I came from ultimate too, and those are the most similar I've found. Challengers and magnets are too overstable for what I wanted. They make great approach discs, but if you want a putter that flies like an ultrastar, you should go with one of the 0.0 stability ones.

 

[Midnightbiker]

As far a driver, I would try the new Nuke

As for putter, I say give the Soft Magnet a try. I love mine.