Why would he not? He tried it, it didn't produce the numbers he was looking for to work with his overall vision, he canned it. That's good business. Why would he keep investing in something that doesn't produce the return (possibly not financial return) he wants?
USDGC > La Mirada....
Thats like comparing tv ratings of a random thursday night football to a title game. Not to mention la mirada is not an easy course to film lr eveb watcb on video
It was/is a very very small one. It echoes itself and magnifies through these tiny echochamber forums we frequent. If I could be bothered to go and do the research I would warrant there have been no more than 100 people on DGCR complaining across all these threads, they are most likely the same people that pop up trolling the Spin TV youtube channel and moaning on the facebook feeds. Certainly some of the user names are the same.
i think you under estimate this a bit plus many will never voice an opinion one way or the other. As vocal as negatives can be it goes the same for those who support stuff. Look at JT he cant stop putting his foot in his mouth
If my customer base is hundreds of thousands, I'm not going to really give a damn what 100 or even 1000 people think however loud they are.
crazy customers are one thing but dismissing legit feedback is being ignorant. No one has the answer in disc golf to "grow the pros purse" and been trying to figure it out for years. Jussi was handed a pretty sweet deal with innovamania compared to trilogy/mvp/prodigy founders. Is he really that special? Eh.
He is packaging up a brand to take to advertisers and investors, to show people the numbers the sport can create, if that offering is diluted through a load of different channels even if the overall views add up to the same the individual impact is lessened. To be able to say the Facebook channel got over 1 million hits is a lot of power (even if they are not unique) . If 1000 people are upset as a result of that, well, if it was your business would you care? Of those 1000 how many will actually not watch any of the coverage you are putting out?
Problem is live coverage forces an ad upon the viewer at real-time. Any post recorded stuff i easily just FF through the ads or BS. I hardly even listen to the goofy commentary unless some dope CCDG guys laying down the track
Then you're not watching very closely. Every major sport is packaging up lots of little bitesize video chunks and teasers, great plays, anything that gets social media engagement. Yes they also have the budget to run the big live stuff, but this sort of smaller cheaper social media engagement is integral to all sports and businesses now.
this is just the world we live in now. It is expected to be doing these things as a brand/business etc. The live stream would be adding additional value which cannot be done by any 12 yr old kid and a cellphone.
that is totally subjective, IMO the media I received at USDGC was better than the stop/start streaming, awkward commentary livestreams I've watched like all you other addicts for the last ten years and I've sat through a lot of them start to finish (often staying up till 4 in the morning). I love this sport, I love watching it even when what I'm watching is clunky in the extreme. They've got better but god if I wasn't addicted to this sport there is no way in the world I or any of you would watch this stuff live, really take yourselves out of it and ask yourself would you?
not really the point of the discussion. We have a company who is ready and willing to provide an up and coming service. It was willing to be paid for and pretty much taken care of. Yet smashboxx got the recycling can.
Trying to take myself out of the Disc Golf bubble the only live coverage I have seen that might have drawn me in without already knowing about the sport and being desperate to see some live coverage of it has been the European TV coverage and even the most recent one was a bit shaky despite costing in the 10's of thousands to air. Those wrap up shows were slick, if I was on the edges of disc golf or just happened to flick onto it, that sort of coverage could get you to watch.
If you were someone investing and trying to make that investment back in advertising showing a livestream on youtube, would this make you eager or not to show it?
again thats not a point. You dont invest in a youtube add you invest in a brand/company which can give you return. Maybe it increased sales or actual cash back for angel funds etc. More eyes the better and more you can appear to be doing for customers/clients the better..
Would you be better off giving a smaller package where you could force engagement with your advertisers or brand or whatever you wanted to showcase?
you mention all those social media outlets but seem to not grasp the idea behind using them as a brand..[/QUOTE]
