Just use the universal answer, available to anyone posting on any thread regarding the best courses/places/states/cities/etc.:
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I built a slight amount of positive bias into my SoCal course ratings because space is such an issue out there.
However, Coyote Point/Lake Casitas can hang with the very best. I like it better than Idlewild.
Obviously, you haven't encountered any Flip City Disciples yet.
What's more compelling?
This list of zip codes within 25 miles of 4.00+ courses:
Or this list of zip codes within 25 miles of 3.75+ courses:
25 miles is too small of a radius. As I stated once, if one were to set their center point on downtown Dallas or downtown Forth Worth, they'd never reach the other city's downtown much less any courses beyond that. 50 miles would be a better barometer.
You also have to consider that the Zip Code search tends to be a bit on the liberal side and that a number of courses outside the selected radius make it into the results, therefore those courses should be omitted.
I wonder how many states you could completely cross through the midpoint in the time it takes to get from Ft Worth to Rockwall, or have less people? Comparing DFW to other *metro areas* is like comparing dinosaurs to frogs and turtles.Neither. 25 miles is too small of a radius. As I stated once, if one were to set their center point on downtown Dallas or downtown Forth Worth, they'd never reach the other city's downtown much less any courses beyond that. 50 miles would be a better barometer.
You also have to consider that the Zip Code search tends to be a bit on the liberal side and that a number of courses outside the selected radius make it into the results, therefore those courses should be omitted.
I've never been to Texas but it and Cali seem to get labeled as overrated more than other regions. I think it has more to do with the fact that so many better courses have emerged in the past 10 yrs and these large states are clinging to their once frontrunner status and continue to compare themselves to themselves. I really have no idea just a theme Ive noticed.
-The ability to play all year round
-Weekly's every weekday
-Monthly's every weekend
-Regular night events (lama, xmas at og)
-PDGA stuff multiple times a year
-Flat park courses
-Hilly park courses
-Mountain courses
-Courses at the beach
-Courses in the desert
-Courses in the city
-Open courses
-Highly technical courses
-Pro's who give lessons
-Two actual physical DG exclusive stores
-A couple of active, local clubs
-The most active DGCR weekly meet up forum. PERIOD!
I could care less about your 'radius' requirements because LA surpasses every radius in the country.
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I think many players, who are happy to play in the winter in general, would find Blue Ribbon Pines still better in the winter than some of the Texas courses at any time. We have players who play every Tuesday night from Thanksgiving to March on 3.5-4 rated courses no matter what the weather or snow cover.As a point of comparison, how would you rate a Minneapolis course covered in 8 inches of snow? I probably would rate it pretty low... or really low. It wouldn't be fair to the course, nor would it be fair for me to get on the internet and say the course is over rated because I had a less than stellar impression after a blizzard.
I think many players, who are happy to play in the winter in general, would find Blue Ribbon Pines still better in the winter than some of the Texas courses at any time. We have players who play every Tuesday night from Thanksgiving to March on 3.5-4 rated courses no matter what the weather or snow cover.
Ive never played in Texas or Cali...you make good points. It's just a frequent theme Ive heard from people who have played in these states.
Every Region has its hell season......snow, drought, excessive vegetaion, heat and so on. The size of Texas seems to mean many Texans have never played elsewhere. Just an internet observation from afar.
Texas and California have weather allowing for year around disc golfing. The relentless traffic the courses endure takes its toll over the years. The older courses become barren by those who constantly clear out the brush to make the course easier for the noob. The long droughts also have a negative effect for recovering growth. This can make what was once a great course into an average course... in a short time.
I know my voice may be alone in the wilderness on this one, but don't work so hard clearing the courses. The natural obstacles add charm and beauty to a course. Don't worry so much about your average score. Everyone plays the same course... I think harder courses are a lot more fun.
I've never been to Texas but it and Cali seem to get labeled as overrated more than other regions. I think it has more to do with the fact that so many better courses have emerged in the past 10 yrs and these large states are clinging to their once frontrunner status and continue to compare themselves to themselves. I really have no idea just a theme Ive noticed.