twistedraven
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I searched in this subforum, but don't see a topic for this particular disc. I'm interested to hear people's thoughts on it.
I recently ordered one of the recent swirly ESP runs with the Discraft Bar stamp. I have read somewhere that these are supposedly a more overstable run and closer to a regular Surge. My particular sample has very little dome, with a shoulder raise, but an otherwise flat flight plate. What I found most interesting is that Discraft has approached this mold like Innova does with its L molds. The wing is completely flat, much like a TL/3 or a Discraft Undertaker. The PLH however, is high-- like really, really high. It's higher than my regular Star Destroyers and Wraiths, and only a Calvin Halo Destroyer matches it. Rim width as narrow for an 11 speed, measuring in at only 20.95mm. For comparison, the 11 speed Wraith is 21.72mm. This makes the Surge SS more of like a 10.5 speed in my book.
Flight wise, this disc has a beautiful stability. It definitely has some turn to it, but a healthy amount of fade to balance it out. Glide isn't exceptional, and seems rather average. I'd give it a 10.5/5/-1/2. I found the Latitude 64 Grace to have a similar flight pattern, but it pushes out further. Part of that might be due to a larger rim (same width as the Wraith), the other part of that might be due to better glide. I haven't come across any Graces with monstrous domes, but they all have a healthy amount of dome-- more so than this flat Surge SS I have.
I'm wondering if there are some very domey Surge SS's of this same mold out there? I'm enamored with the disc enough to experiment with a couple other samples of it, but at the end of the day, I'm wondering if a Grace is just flat out better at being that slower speed controlled semi-flippy distance driver.
I recently ordered one of the recent swirly ESP runs with the Discraft Bar stamp. I have read somewhere that these are supposedly a more overstable run and closer to a regular Surge. My particular sample has very little dome, with a shoulder raise, but an otherwise flat flight plate. What I found most interesting is that Discraft has approached this mold like Innova does with its L molds. The wing is completely flat, much like a TL/3 or a Discraft Undertaker. The PLH however, is high-- like really, really high. It's higher than my regular Star Destroyers and Wraiths, and only a Calvin Halo Destroyer matches it. Rim width as narrow for an 11 speed, measuring in at only 20.95mm. For comparison, the 11 speed Wraith is 21.72mm. This makes the Surge SS more of like a 10.5 speed in my book.
Flight wise, this disc has a beautiful stability. It definitely has some turn to it, but a healthy amount of fade to balance it out. Glide isn't exceptional, and seems rather average. I'd give it a 10.5/5/-1/2. I found the Latitude 64 Grace to have a similar flight pattern, but it pushes out further. Part of that might be due to a larger rim (same width as the Wraith), the other part of that might be due to better glide. I haven't come across any Graces with monstrous domes, but they all have a healthy amount of dome-- more so than this flat Surge SS I have.
I'm wondering if there are some very domey Surge SS's of this same mold out there? I'm enamored with the disc enough to experiment with a couple other samples of it, but at the end of the day, I'm wondering if a Grace is just flat out better at being that slower speed controlled semi-flippy distance driver.