[Innova] The Jay, Innova's Buzzz?

[ArtemisClydFr0g]

I wonder if the Mid Disc 3 / Metal Warrior was a one-time thing. I don't really see why they would have the same/very similar mold for 4 different discs in the same family. Jay/Chariot/MD3/Aurora and probably others I'm forgetting.

 

[@CD-]

I wonder if the Mid Disc 3 / Metal Warrior was a one-time thing. I don't really see why they would have the same/very similar mold for 4 different discs in the same family. Jay/Chariot/MD3/Aurora and probably others I'm forgetting.

Mid Disc3 has different approval specs & flight numbers though. Latest run Aurora MS have no microbead & use a different top (not flat).

You could same the same thing about these discs with 'shared' Innova molds sold by different competing brands:
Firefly/Alpaca/Omega4
Firebird/Scepter/Draco
Max/Slab/Sabot

Some amount of differentiation exists based on each brand's version via stamps and plastic blends so far. Every store does not stock all of these brands either so direct competition doesn't really matter. Innova doesn't care if the disc sells under any of the brands that contract molding with them either.

It is curious that the rebranded Mid Disc3/Fairway Disc/Power Disc/Power Disc2 were PDGA approved under the Innova Factory Store instead of Innova Champion Discs. I assume they will not have wide releases or be available with Innova dealer order forms.

 

[Neil_Rankin]

Mid Disc3 has different approval specs & flight numbers though. Latest run Aurora MS have no microbead & use a different top (not flat).

You could same the same thing about these discs with 'shared' Innova molds sold by different competing brands:
Firefly/Alpaca/Omega4
Firebird/Scepter/Draco
Max/Slab/Sabot

Some amount of differentiation exists based on each brand's version via stamps and plastic blends so far. Every store does not stock all of these brands either so direct competition doesn't really matter. Innova doesn't care if the disc sells under any of the brands that contract molding with them either.

It is curious that the rebranded Mid Disc3/Fairway Disc/Power Disc/Power Disc2 were PDGA approved under the Innova Factory Store instead of Innova Champion Discs. I assume they will not have wide releases or be available with Innova dealer order forms.

I know just enough intellectual property law to be dangerous. My guess is the molds approved under Innova Factory Store so as to further avoid any perceived risk of consumer confusion between their molds and Discmania's.

 

[gammaxgoblin]

Mid Disc3 has different approval specs & flight numbers though. Latest run Aurora MS have no microbead & use a different top (not flat).

You could same the same thing about these discs with 'shared' Innova molds sold by different competing brands:
Firefly/Alpaca/Omega4
Firebird/Scepter/Draco
Max/Slab/Sabot

Some amount of differentiation exists based on each brand's version via stamps and plastic blends so far. Every store does not stock all of these brands either so direct competition doesn't really matter. Innova doesn't care if the disc sells under any of the brands that contract molding with them either.

It is curious that the rebranded Mid Disc3/Fairway Disc/Power Disc/Power Disc2 were PDGA approved under the Innova Factory Store instead of Innova Champion Discs. I assume they will not have wide releases or be available with Innova dealer order forms.

Why make something new and different when you can rebrand the already selling thing, keep selling that and then also sell the same thing with a different name...Murica!

 

[Streets]

A Star Jay is on the way :thmbup:

 

[ODRB]

Reminds me of the Aurora,

https://www.golfdisc.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/qms-all.jpg

I'm with you--my very first thought was "So they renamed the QMS?"

 

[Streets]

Omg it is the QMS...I guess I won't regret my purchase!

 

[Streets]

Got it, I don't have a QMS to compare to but it feels an awful lot like how I remember that disc feeling.

 

[bnrstnkr]

As someone who uses the flat Sirius Aurora for many different mid shots, I can attest it reduces the number of molds you need. If they stopped making flat Auroras, and this is that mold now, I'm glad they are continuing production. Love the board flat beadless feel and versatile flight of the Aurora.

Hard to say the Jay is a Buzzz clone, seems like the Buzzz was always an Aurora clone, which came out a decade earlier. It's just that Millennium never gets the attention it deserves

 

[mboss302]

Got it, I don't have a QMS to compare to but it feels an awful lot like how I remember that disc feeling.

what does it fly like?

 

[Streets]

what does it fly like?

Haven't gotten there yet lol

 

[mboss302]

Has anyone thrown it yet?

 

[mboss302]

just got one and its really overstable. Don't if its a one off or not.

 

[Countchunkula]

This disc is screaming for a doobie related dye job.

 

[GripEnemy]

This disc is screaming for a doobie related dye job.

I always liked your opinions on DGCR . . .

I still do, but I used to, too.

 

[wolfhaley]

I always liked your opinions on DGCR . . .

I still do, but I used to, too.

What does this even mean?

Just got my star Jay in. Pretty domey, Pronounced chin. Borderline biggest chin on a mold I've ever seen. Takes awhile to get on air. Lackluster results overall, fall asleep often mid show.

 

[GripEnemy]

Mitch hedberg joke "I used to do drugs...I still do but I used to too"

 

[mboss302]

Has any body else thrown it

 

[Three Putt]

What does this even mean?

Just got my star Jay in. Pretty domey, Pronounced chin. Borderline biggest chin on a mold I've ever seen. Takes awhile to get on air. Lackluster results overall, fall asleep often mid show.

Ya got me. What is a "chin"?

 

[gammaxgoblin]

Can this thread be renamed to something less ridiculous?