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Look up Dave Dunipaces Snake Strike putting style video. I switched and practiced this style for a month and saw like 5 strokes drop off my scores at my home course Sioux Passage
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It's not anecdotal at all. Spin put engages more joints in motion. That's more points of failure. That means it's harder to be consistent. A push put at longer distances has to have a lob on it, that means it will be more susceptible than a perfectly flat spin put.
Finally, the idea that there are "more points of failure" may come from theory, but I still haven't seen any scientific studies on putting.
I don't know, when I run I always make sure to do so with straight legs to avoid knee bend related failure. Olympics here I come!
Thanks for this post. I hadn't realized until I read this that I've been getting lazy this summer with my finger-pop. I've been putting great, with a lot of wrist action - but there's been a limit to my comfortable range that has been driving me nuts. Found it this morning by bringing that pop with the back fingers into my putt again.The real difference is how the spin is generated. Instead of elbow and wrist hinging, Ricky gets his spin from finger spring. What's interesting to me is that I can get a lot more velocity on a Ricky style putt than I can a conventional spin putt, unless I line up sideways and rifle it.
Finally, the idea that there are "more points of failure" may come from theory, but I still haven't seen any scientific studies on putting.
I just don't 100% buy that more made putts follows from less things moving/bending. If it all else was held equal going from a spin putt to a push putt that would be one thing. But you're also losing spin and introducing an entirely different style of stroke, which I will argue is less intuitive and requires more of an investment of consistent practice to get over the initial learning curve.The push putt removes the elbow completely from the equation. It's not like this is some cutting edge scientific theory. There are less things moving/bending.
None of this ``intuition'' is given by birth, it all depends on your previous sports experiences and such. What holds true for you can be on the contrary for others. If you come from Volleyball, for example, you'll find holding the upper body rigid and pushing in one direction to be pretty ``intuitive'' i.e. familiar.Spin putting is more intuitive, allowing one to rely on a more familiar motion of tossing a Frisbee. There's nothing intuitive about holding most of the joints in your upper body rigid, which is a drawback to push putting.
Fair enough. In that case, I guess all you disc golfers out on the course with more volleyball experience than frisbee thing experience have a leg up when it comes to push putting. /SNone of this ``intuition'' is given by birth, it all depends on your previous sports experiences and such. What holds true for you can be on the contrary for others. If you come from Volleyball, for example, you'll find holding the upper body rigid and pushing in one direction to be pretty ``intuitive'' i.e. familiar.
Look up Dave Dunipaces Snake Strike putting style video. I switched and practiced this style for a month and saw like 5 strokes drop off my scores at my home course Sioux Passage
I don't know enough about sports physics to dispute this, but it's the internet so I'll give it a go.
The idea that there are more things to mess up with spin putting may be the case. However I wonder whether or not this actually results in higher scores vs push putting. Being aware that push putting is more mechanically sound did not help putts go in for me. Did I have the best push putt form possible? No. But I don't have a lot of time to practice putting either.
Spin putting is more intuitive, allowing one to rely on a more familiar motion of tossing a Frisbee. There's nothing intuitive about holding most of the joints in your upper body rigid, which is a drawback to push putting.
Also don't forgot that putting doesn't take place in a vacuum. There may be more points of failure that I'm introducing in my elbow and wrist, but the disc is leaving my hand with more spin and potentially with the nose down against the wind, which is going to reduce the variability there.
Finally, the idea that there are "more points of failure" may come from theory, but I still haven't seen any scientific studies on putting.
Cam Todd and Cale leviska are very pure push putters imo.
Not really on Cam, and definitely not for Cale.
The push putt removes the elbow completely from the equation. It's not like this is some cutting edge scientific theory. There are less things moving/bending.