DiscLoser1
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I came to post something similar but damn. my man'
You've mocked the Pro scene (and those that follow it) for years on this very site.
But this is the year you finally had enough, huh?
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I came to post something similar but damn. my man'
You've mocked the Pro scene (and those that follow it) for years on this very site.
But this is the year you finally had enough, huh?
My counterpoint to the whole livestream situation is this: foresight.
I don't think the USDGC was the PDGA's idea, something they offered and Innova accepted.
Innova created the event from the beginning, with effort and vision and a huge chunk of resources. They didn't earn it, they built it. All they earned was the "major" designation.
The PDGA owns the tier designation, I'm not sure they own the event name, but certainly not the event.
Lyle, you my friend, and I disagree on this topic -- so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I'm with David and the others. If I create an event from scratch, get PDGA sanctioning, and then build it up over 15-16 years to "something special" that doesn't mean or give cause that I need to acquiesce to anyone. I am the TD, I raised the money (or in this case got Dunipace to put in the hugest chunk of it), went through all of the growing pains (remember performance flights), and yada, yada, yada. The very idea that the PDGA could come in and say, "hey, our members want something more than you're wanting to give, so let's have an adult conversation about giving our members what they want," is all fine and dandy, but I, as the TD, still don't necessarily have to do it. And then what is the PDGA's alternative -- say "nanny-nanny boo-boo, we won't sanction you"??
It's not that type of organization ... people may want it to be, but it's just not. And this diatribe about "what the PDGA should do here and what they did wrong" to me looks like more attempts to trash the PDGA. In THIS specific case they did all the RIGHT things and did all THEY could do. People seem upset that the TD had so much "power" here to just make that decision, but that's not any different than LaMirada or the Memorial or the BSF or the Ledgestone or my local B-tier, etc. So, yes, the USDGC as it is currently situated (that is run by, and having most money being put in by) IS owned by Innova. This particular tournament and the trademarked title. That's also an e.o.s.
btw Ricky was #10 or #SCTop10 tonight. -- the SpinTV version
I'd never ever say the PDGA owned the event. The notion that innova owns USDGC is silly. It's just a name, albiet, one with gravitas. .
With the precedent set by the DGPT and now the USDGC, the urge to ignore the PDGA when someone doesn't like their responses/reactions/positions makes those attempting to grow the pro side of the sport look like a bunch of kids throwing a tantrum at the grocery store. If the PDGA gives in every time a tantrum is thrown, they lose all credibility. If TDs choose to unsanction but still run events using PDGA rules (which is what's happening), what are they really accomplishing? This isn't Burger King. You can't pick and choose what to follow, and it makes our sport look like what it is...a bunch of people playing a game.
This year has soured me on professional disc golf more than I ever thought it could, and I pushed for growth on this side. Bickered with Chuck for months about it. We may have a bunch of ace videos on ESPN, but we're in no way, shape, or form ready for prime time. We've got a tour that has completely abandoned the spirit of the game I love and alienated women and another that (seemingly) got it right where Jussi failed (in my eyes) take a nose dive over a psychopathic (his words) douche nozzle (my words). While I know that nobody's perfect, these guys have stooped to downright idiotic levels.
This is just anything but professional.
Meanwhile, having posted that I don't care about broadcasts because disc golf is not a spectator sport so many times even I'm sick of reading it---
Here I am, Saturday, stuck in my home on the soggy edges of a hurricane, really wishing I could watch the USDGC live.
Sigh.
*hits thanks button* well said teebz
Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got till it's gone.
Thanks for the musical terrorism. Now it's stuck in my head, until I can song-bomb someone with: IF YOU LIKE PINA COLADAS,