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[Westside] Westside 2014 PROTOS, Review and Flight
- Thread starter Titan037
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I had the same thought. It seemed more like a faster River to me than super understable. The "2" fade didn't show up very much.
I have a love/hate relationship with Westside, but I will declare right now that if the production Sorcerer is anything like the protos in that video, my Terns are in serious jeopardy.
Kiekko_FIN
Par Member
You need to add some scale to tests. how far tester throws some common disc? e.g. roc, teebird, destroyer. What common models you can compare each disc. What is the length of the field? Show the thrower. Try something like: I throw fresh teebird 420 feet with slight hyzer release. This New überDriverPutter here flies 430 feet and is slightly less stable with same kind of throw. Put flag or basket to the field and try to hit it with each throw shaping different lines. Tell how far the target is. Forehand, backhand, thumbers, tomahawks. Good start but you need to get more details.
mattc
* Ace Member *
I just think its cool he took the time to show us the discs and make the video.
The few westside discs that I have, make me crazy, because the flight numbers are so far off.
They are nowhere near what I bought them for, but they do fly nice.
So I always have this big argument with the stag every time I bring it to the course.
It wants to stay in the bag, but I tell it, I already have other discs in that spot, so we end up arguing and making a sceen.
The few westside discs that I have, make me crazy, because the flight numbers are so far off.
They are nowhere near what I bought them for, but they do fly nice.
So I always have this big argument with the stag every time I bring it to the course.
It wants to stay in the bag, but I tell it, I already have other discs in that spot, so we end up arguing and making a sceen.
joshuajames
Double Eagle Member
I finally gave up and let my Stags do there thing. More times than not the Stag is right.
pmorgan1214
Eagle Member
mattc,
i dont know how you take the stag out of the bag. What disc do you have to replace it. I have thrown the stag over 380 feet no more than 15 feet high. I agree with flight ratings. The stag is more like a 10 6 -1 1. At least when thrown hard and overpowering the disc.
As for staying on topic with the forum, the hatchet will be in my bag for sure if it is 9 6 -2 2, and that will replace my valkerie, the sorcerer will most likely replace my wraith in my bag, and the world might replace the unreliable king. The king for me is super understable when thrown hard. i have to put a lot of loft on it to get the disc to do a nice s curve. maybe i am doing something wrong but cant be for sure. when i do hit the line correctly on the king i can throw the king over 380+ feet.
i dont know how you take the stag out of the bag. What disc do you have to replace it. I have thrown the stag over 380 feet no more than 15 feet high. I agree with flight ratings. The stag is more like a 10 6 -1 1. At least when thrown hard and overpowering the disc.
As for staying on topic with the forum, the hatchet will be in my bag for sure if it is 9 6 -2 2, and that will replace my valkerie, the sorcerer will most likely replace my wraith in my bag, and the world might replace the unreliable king. The king for me is super understable when thrown hard. i have to put a lot of loft on it to get the disc to do a nice s curve. maybe i am doing something wrong but cant be for sure. when i do hit the line correctly on the king i can throw the king over 380+ feet.
mattc
* Ace Member *
Falls in between my saint and teebird
pmorgan1214
Eagle Member
Has anyone thrown the sword???? I have the boatmand and it is just one speed lower and i dont think the boatman deserves a speed 11 since it is so overstable. is the sword like it just a little faster or is there any turn if you put it on an anhyzer.
not just like it, not really overstable at all once seasoned, more stable to understable...swords can be finessed for surprisingly long straight shots, powered up for long turnovers from hyzer releases that usually fight back a bit at the end, and be made to hold really long annys that may fade out just a bit at the end if thrown really high. The only thing they don't do well is fight strong headwinds and they tend to flip up from big hyzers for me more than I want on power shots.
Pleasethrowplastic
Newbie
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If you're throwing under 350, a TP Sword will be your best friend in calm to mild conditions
zeusjus
Par Member
i throw both and really like the pairing. my boatman is 173g VIP and really overstable, and since i dont have the arm for a giant i use it as my headwind and big hyzer disc, which it is awesome at. my 166g VIP sword has been my go to for the past while and is nothing like the boatman. faster and not nearly as overstable. my 166 with flip up with a bit of hyzer or give me some nice turn thrown flat, and decent fade at the end. i just got a 173 VIP which has little, if any turn and holds long hyzers pretty well. unfortunately i didnt get much work with it before the snow came. for me the boatman/sword makes a great pairing. heres to hoping the sorcerer is a longer sword!
khmer
Birdie Member
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Agreed
I couldn't say it any better :clap: I love my swords. I'll be excited to test the Sorcerer...maybe it'll take the Swords slot and the Harp for the Sinus.
I couldn't say it any better :clap: I love my swords. I'll be excited to test the Sorcerer...maybe it'll take the Swords slot and the Harp for the Sinus.
pmorgan1214
Eagle Member
I love westside and i am looking forward to getting the giant, sword in my bag. right now i have in my bag that is westside: 2 swans soft, underworld vip plastic, stag one in tourny the other vip, northman tourny, boatman vip, 2 kings one vip and one tourney. love them and cant wait to add more.
Jintaq
Par Member
My intense love of the Swan2 means I basically HAVE to try the Harp, but that thing looks like it may have too much speed and carry for what I typically want. If the flight numbers are right (which Westside treats their flight rating numbers liberally), then it is altogether to close to a midrange for me. I'd rather have it be that OS and slow as snot, like the Sinuses I currently use. I'll give the Harp a whirl. Has to be done. I haven't given Westside enough of my money yet just in Swans.
Yeah hopefully this Sorcerer will be a longer sword in flight and feel similar. I love the grip, feel and flight of the sword, but it does seem just a bit shorter than the esp nukes I had. Would like a nice predictable Sword-like disc that can boom even more and maybe has a rim width no wider than the Giant.
No idea on the ratings thing but its definitely been widely noted. Really it seems most of the manufacturer's ratings are a bit off and usually don't account for things like plastic type and power that well. Westside may be the worst offender though!
No idea on the ratings thing but its definitely been widely noted. Really it seems most of the manufacturer's ratings are a bit off and usually don't account for things like plastic type and power that well. Westside may be the worst offender though!
kyledstauffer
Eagle Member
Definitely not. The boatman is definitely overstable. I have some swords that are pretty overstable as well. Takes a while to beat them in where I want them. VIP warships are not flippy either. They all need to be thrown smoothly though for best effect.
