I see this common reoccurring philosophy of teaching someone new they shouldn't throw drivers until they can throw x putter or x midrange a certain distance. I mean I guess that's one way to learn. When I tried that approach I wasn't really making big gains with my distance. For about two weeks I was just stuck in this rut of no more gains. Thinking back now I think what it was, was that I was of some false belief that just continuing to throw them I would make these steady gains and I wasn't really putting in more effort to work on throwing harder, to improve my snap, etc. So I went the other direction of throwing my fastest discs harder and focusing on improved effort and timing and snap. Even after just a few days (several hours of hard work every day) I noticed my discs looked better, smoother put of my hand. My slower discs were easier to throw further and easier to control. It changed my mind of the approach. For some reason, my Escape is the most stable acting disc I own. Perhaps it's the plastic, I'm not sure, but now it's a fun disc to throw and watch it sail straight without prematurely crashing out.Figure out why people say they mask form problems before saying that they don't, especially when you back it up with a sample size of one.
Here's a start:
If someone is torquing over on a disc, they then think that the disc is too understable and that they need to stable up. One way to stable up is to go up in speed. So now the higher speed/higher stability disc will "eat up" the torque and give a better result, creating a feedback loop of using discs to compensate for form flaws.
Example from earlier in the thread: look at this guy throwing,front side open, poor alignment, going over the top and falling to the right, etc.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwxr2iqKQpU
This is an example of where someone has poor form and is using all these discs to try and get better results, rather than simply improving form.
Form is a relative thing. Each person has their signature throwing style from their run up into their release and follow through. I think that learning to throw is also a relative thing. Each person learns a little different and the reality of how they progressed and what it was that clicked for each is different. My big moment recently was one little motion in my reach back that helped me to feel the weight of the disc.
First throwing right handed and then switching left helped me to understand the difference between strong arming and uncoiling energy from my body.
I mentioned also watching how discs fly. When I get a driver to go really far I watch what the disc does and try to understand what I did on that throw that made it fly that way. Through a trial and error process of sorts we learn from our errors and successes. I think most people just beginning to throw don't understand the concept of working very hard, battling through error, to find real success. Some work harder than others. Most who work harder than others without giving up usually are rewarded with successes. On average, I probably throw two hours every day in the mornings and at lunch besides Sunday (The Sabbath) just working on distance. I work on my midrange and putts usually in the evenings when I'm not busy. I know how important distance is, especially on the courses around where I live. By most people's standards, yeah, I'm kind of hyperfocused on distance. But, it has made the game funner and easier for me when I do go and play rounds at the courses. I still struggle with distance on uphill holes, but doesn't everyone!