[Discraft] Crafting Low Scores - Everything Discraft!

[jjmiller]

Came home to two Z Raptors sitting on my porch. Took them to the course to compare to the Predators I bag; the verdict so far is meh. Maybe I was hoping for something magical but I can backhand are forehand my Preds with much more consistency than the Raptors. Maybe I just need to spend the time to get to know the disc better but as of now I'm a little doubtful that it's worth the effort.

What kinda weight/plastic/beat-in Preds are you throwing? How's the stability compare?

 

[elmexdela]

i just peeped discrafts page i cant believe how many new stamps and molds they are pumping out

discraft was sleepin all these years and now is making up for lost time

 

[riltim]

What kinda weight/plastic/beat-in Preds are you throwing? How's the stability compare?

I bag a 172g Big Z that's been in the bag for ~1.5 years and a fresh 174g Z. I've been throwing Predators for a while now so I'm fairly comfortable with them.

The Raptors were flying slightly more overstable but I have a feeling I was having some nose angle issues with them and the more shallow rim.

 

[Jkosk]

I bag a 172g Big Z that's been in the bag for ~1.5 years and a fresh 174g Z. I've been throwing Predators for a while now so I'm fairly comfortable with them.

The Raptors were flying slightly more overstable but I have a feeling I was having some nose angle issues with them and the more shallow rim.

That is interesting. Most experiences I have heard are that they are a bit less overstable than the pred.

 

[riltim]

That is interesting. Most experiences I have heard are that they are a bit less overstable than the pred.

In all fairness I didn't get many flat throws with them backhand, I was throwing them on a slight hyzer line.

They were flying more overstable for me forehand but my forehand sucks and it was probably a nose angle issue.

 

[Jkosk]

I will say this about the raptor:
The wing feels incredibly comfortable on a forehand, and in general it feels smooth and pleasant. That said, in my hands it feels almost uncomfortably shallow with a backhand power grip. Like it feels like it could slip and cause early release issues for me.

Could be the combination of shallow depth and a relatively narrow wing width, but the way my fingers curl around it just can't seem to get a good grip. I've never quite felt this... uncertain about my grip on a disc before.

I've been throwing the Pred since 2007, which feels a lot deeper and more suited to my backhand grip. I don't foresee myself changing over to the Raptor, based on hand feel alone, if I'm being completely honest. But I'll give it a chance this season during casual rounds.

 

[Muddyboots]

I'll offer up a counterpoint and say that I find it more comfortable than the Tsunami that I have carried for several years. My beef with the Tsu is that I never clicked with the grip/feel for FH. If the Raptor is as good BH and better FH, then I will switch. First impression, based on about 3 throws as it got dark yesterday, were favorable. Mine are not as flat as the Test Flights, but far from domey.

 

[GripEnemy]

what kind of soap do you use

C.O. Bigelow hair/body wash, the company started as an apothecary almost 200 years ago. I've been using it for years, got a shave/soap gift set for my birthday or Christmas when I was in middle school/early high school IIRC. I match the wash with their cheap yet delicious (so women say) colognes. I have a couple expensive colognes/other washes I basically never use because, well, monies.

Elixir Blue

Elixir Black Pepper

 

[Stable]

Managed to find this unused Crush (172g) on eBay. This mold needs to get back in production. I've got three now to get me through the next 2-3 years.

 

[Casey 1988]

I am hopefully getting 2 DGA Proline Titanic's 175 gram for a hot hot day reaplacement for my Jawbreaker Magnets. One will go into bag if I like it for that option of replacing the Magnet for hot days Jawbreaker plastic gets too sticky. My old pre 2006 Stiff Pro D will then come out if I like the Proline Titanic, as the old Stiff Pro D Mangent has just due to getting worn smooth gotten too slick to use even thought I have washed it with Dawn to remove the grease and dirt on the disc.

The discs came on Friday 3/29/2019 both being white and are a Magnet says so on the bottom inner rim. To me the Titanic is an L mold with the X being the original Magnet as it is lower due to a less blunt nose configuration. As I was wondering the Proline is like a tougher standard X plastic but not a full on modern ESP or the older runs including the flexible crap that ended up spawning FLX ESP for a few years but rather like the less durable ESP they made in mid 2010's that was almost a tougher X. Odd but the Proline version has a hashmark spot on the inner rim and seems that will help with putting

I did try to beat/break in as best I could outside on the sidewalk with a putt speed throw at the ground on the one Disc I kept white and will be the longer putter. The other Titanic or shorter putter I used a sharpie and rubbing alcohol on a paper towel. I took the paper towel and put rubbing alcohol on a part of it letting it soak in a tad. Then I took a Sharpie royal blue and scribbled a bit on the rubbing alcohol part and would use that on the disc until the ink was gone and repeated until whole disc was covered. Now I have a Titanic in a non uniform sky blue looks like I used modern watercolors to paint with and the other I left white.

I have tested them Saturday 3/30/2019 with a few throws outside and they fly like a Magnet just a tad slower, not surprising since a Titanic is a Magnet with a slightly taller edge due to a tad blunter nose. I will test them Sunday 3/31/2019 more as the weather should be nicer.

Sorry for the long post.

 

[Bogey B.O.B.]

Has anyone else seen these Limited Edition Jawbreaker Rattlers? Two popped up on eBay and I snagged one. It just has a graffiti stamp and no mention of Ledgestone or anything. I haven't seen them anywhere else. It is a 145–150g so I thought, if nothing else, it would make a nice catch disc for warm-up. I haven't thrown a Rattler since the 90s. I have used a 175 Z Putt'r for touchy approaches since they came out but, who knows, sometimes good things happen when you see an old friend.

 

[Blobfish]

Has anyone else seen these Limited Edition Jawbreaker Rattlers? Two popped up on eBay and I snagged one. It just has a graffiti stamp and no mention of Ledgestone or anything. I haven't seen them anywhere else. It is a 145–150g so I thought, if nothing else, it would make a nice catch disc for warm-up. I haven't thrown a Rattler since the 90s. I have used a 175 Z Putt'r for touchy approaches since they came out but, who knows, sometimes good things happen when you see an old friend.

I had no idea these were ever made... Been asking anyone and everyone if Discraft ever made a rattler in something besides pro d... Super jealous!


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[F. Howl]

Some great looking bottom stamped Tour Series discs are on the way. Anyone see these online yet? I'm not switching to the Raptor so I didn't pick up any of Uli's, but can't pass up an SS in the plastic I throw:

 

[MANBURGARLAR]

Those retro swirls look unreal. Would love a zone in one. They should also do a batch of MJ comets with the swirls!

PS: sunking has CT jawbreaker focuses in stock now.

 

[VictorB]

Those retro swirls look unreal. Would love a zone in one.

Good thing Earhart's tour series disc is this ESP swirl zone then

 

[rbsold]

Has anyone thrown the Ledgestone swirly Surges yet? I'm curious.

 

[Stable]

I really wish McBeth would grow an evil twisty mustache like Wario & call himself Sleazy McBeazy. No reason, just something I'd like to see.

Carry on.....

 

[GripEnemy]

Has anyone thrown the Ledgestone swirly Surges yet? I'm curious.

I will Friday! Perhaps even tomorrow afternoon

 

[rbsold]

I will Friday! Perhaps even tomorrow afternoon

I decided not to wait, and pulled the trigger on a pair. I'm hoping Saturday, they're in my hands.

 

[GripEnemy]

I decided not to wait, and pulled the trigger on a pair. I'm hoping Saturday, they're in my hands.

I posted it in the Surge thread already but they're higher PLH than the four Zs I currently own, which are all higher PLH than my ESPs. Probably gonna be pretty beefy until they break in. We shall seeopcorn: