Not even close bro... I PIF'ed away my Z Zones and picked up 4 suspects, reg run lucid, FR and they are nowhere near as O/S as a zone. Anybody that wants to try one let me know, I will hook you up................jb
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[Discraft] New Hybrid Barstamp Z Zones
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Not even close bro... I PIF'ed away my Z Zones and picked up 4 suspects, reg run lucid, FR and they are nowhere near as O/S as a zone. Anybody that wants to try one let me know, I will hook you up................jb
jrawk
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here http://www.ebay.com/itm/310933751497
and here https://www.dynamicdiscs.net/Discraft-Big-Z-Zone-Bar-Stamp-p/0344-0.htm
some more chatter and discussion here starting post #72
http://www.dgcoursereview.com/forums/showthread.php?t=102412&page=8
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jswoods1984
Salient Disc Test Team
A couple days in with the Big Z Zone and I love it. Got some backups on their way and the Cryztal FLX is now out of the bag.
notroman
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How do the Big Z Zones compare to the stiff ESP Zones? I found the stiff ESP to be the most overstable, and those are the ones I throw. Every Z and CryZtal Zone I've thrown has been on the straighter side, kind of like a year-long seasoned stiff ESP.
Alcuin
Eagle Member
I'm interested in this question too.
I've got a Big Z on the way, and I'm going to throw it alongside my year old stiff ESP to see how it does. I'll return with some results.
jswoods1984
Salient Disc Test Team
I can say it's more overstable than my Cryztal FLX, but it's been a while since I've busted out the ESP, so I'm not 100% sure.
Menacewarf
Double Eagle Member
A slightly less overstable zone is a Jokeri. That is all
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my concave topped glo z zones are every bit as stable as my esp's, with the benefit of better grip. booted the esp's to the storage bin.
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
I would agree that the Glo Zs are as overstable as the concave ESPs, but I've noticed there's a tremendous tradeoff in durability. My first ESP is still as beefy as the day I got it, and I've been noticing my Glo Z is starting to fade later.
Alcuin
Eagle Member
Just got my Big Z Zone in the mail from DD, and boy is it sweet. I can't wait to throw it, so here's hoping it doesn't rain tomorrow. Feels nice and grippy, and looks sharp with the elegant barstamp. If only these were regular production.
jswoods1984
Salient Disc Test Team
I stocked up just in case they aren't regular production. I had one shipped to me and love the way it flies so much that I decided to get an additional one of each color!!
jswoods1984
Salient Disc Test Team
Got a mail call with 5 Big Z Zones yesterday!!!! I LOVE this disc!! And I'm happy I got them before they sold out of max weight!!!
ian.
*Legalize It*
yeah i have had the same concave esp zone in the bag for almost 5 years and its still a beefy hog lol ... not as beefy as she once as but hell after near 5 years what should i expect lol .. working in a new esp as we speak but these z's sure do look tasty
jswoods1984
Salient Disc Test Team
I would highly recommend getting your hands on one of these, they feel and fly amazing!! My favorite Zones thus far!!
Alcuin
Eagle Member
I threw my Big Z Zone a bit yesterday. I'm still not used to how it feels, but it always takes me a lot of time to get used to a new disc. It feels chunkier than my concave ESP, and this is probably because the flightplate is flat to mildly convex, so it fits in the hand differently.
I've been throwing the same ESP Zone for about a year, but it's still plenty overstable. This new Zone is much more overstable than my ESP is now, and seems to be more overstable than the ESP was out of the box. I threw it on a hole that's usually easy mode with the Zone, a 260' downhill slight dogleg left, and the Big Z faded out way early. I remember parking that hole easily with my ESP right after I bought it. So these might be more overstable than some production ESPs.
I've been throwing the same ESP Zone for about a year, but it's still plenty overstable. This new Zone is much more overstable than my ESP is now, and seems to be more overstable than the ESP was out of the box. I threw it on a hole that's usually easy mode with the Zone, a 260' downhill slight dogleg left, and the Big Z faded out way early. I remember parking that hole easily with my ESP right after I bought it. So these might be more overstable than some production ESPs.
jrawk
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yep, i actually shelved my Big Z and put my Crystal Z back in the bag for league night. The Big Z is just so darn overstable, it starts fading during your reach-back! :gross:
jswoods1984
Salient Disc Test Team
I didn't think they were THAT overstable. Not to mention, isn't that the appeal of Zones? Wouldn't being the most ridiculously beefy disc fit exactly what you're looking for in a Zone?
jrawk
* Ace Member *
yes and no. Yes when i am familiar enough with it to use confidently.
No when you're on a course that doesn't need it. I.e., i'm not walking into a strip club with a wallet full of nickels.
Hey, I am fairly vocal about zones being zones and their isn't much sense splitting hairs over how different runs fly. And that's still true. I just need some more 1 on 1 time with this new BigZ before we get more serious.
Um...
Double Eagle Member
Depends. I have a concave ESP that, as JRawk said, "is just so darn overstable, it starts fading during your reach-back!" It's definitely a fixture in my bag, but no way that it gets the distance or is as workable as other Zone's I've thrown. Plus it's that super stiff ESP which takes like a gazillion years to beat in. Mine's been in my bag for almost 3 years now, gets thrown at least once a round, and has probably lost a centimeter of HSS.
The meathook is great for a lot of situations, but having a more workable Zone is a nice thing too.
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