I'm on the Saint bandwagon. I recently put a couple of Champion Teebirds in my bag but they just don't seem as consistant for me as the Saint. In fact I find myself turning them over more than the Saints. When I throw them both true the Saint gets me 30' more D. This last weekend I added another GL Saint and happened to win an Opto Air Saint at our League Event. We'll see how that one flies once I get a chance to toss it.