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[Drivers] Flat top discs-designed to be Flat.
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pjhayes7
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I have seen two of these molds, but what is a Firebird3? Do you have some secret info on a yet to be released disc? I kid, but seriously, this would be a great seller and addition to Innova's lineup. The only thing, the CFR flat topped Firebirds that are coming out now probably would lose their mystique if a generally flat production model was released.
Although I have a buddy with a Flick that has some dome to it, the flattest disc I have ever seen was a Flick.
BirdieMachine
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I was joking about the FB3, yeah they are not smart over there not creating it for a production run, I think it would sell well. Maybe better then the TB3.
As I wrote, the flatness itself does not define stability. The wing height on the other hand does play a big role.
So if you have a very US disc that has a low wing height, it will most probably have a substantial shoulder / rise at the edge of the top. This makes even flat discs feel "less flat".
Personally, I feel like flat top discs are good for when I want to place a disc shorter rather than longer..ie. the harp, felon..
That flat top robs the disc of glide. I certainly want some dome with my longer range placement discs like the pop top saint pros and saints.
That flat top robs the disc of glide. I certainly want some dome with my longer range placement discs like the pop top saint pros and saints.
PMantle
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I hate flat distance drivers.
I've found this as well. G* TB's are the perfect shape IMO. It almost seems like with the floppier G* plastic the flight plate can't support itself. This seems more evident with wider rim drivers where less material is concentrated in the flight plate.
@iDiscGolf
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Can someone make a short-list of board flat discs that are understable?
Insanity
Inertia
Inspire
Switch
Relay
Looking at my Theory, just a little dome, but I would call it flat.
hugheshilton
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I would agree with several other people on here that if you really like flat discs, you should try MVP/Axiom. While they're not ALL board flat, dome is more the exception than the rule, especially if you're not getting Plasma plastic.
That said, I *do* think that in distance drivers some dome is pretty desirable for adding glide and getting some extra distance. I think this is probably partially why I could never throw the Photon I had as far as I can throw Destroyers or Scorpiuses when I was testing it (we'll find out when MVP finally releases some 23 mm drivers and I can do a real apples to apples comparison).
That said, I *do* think that in distance drivers some dome is pretty desirable for adding glide and getting some extra distance. I think this is probably partially why I could never throw the Photon I had as far as I can throw Destroyers or Scorpiuses when I was testing it (we'll find out when MVP finally releases some 23 mm drivers and I can do a real apples to apples comparison).
THUGNIFICENT763
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SD86
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Some Star Valkyries come out very flat, so you can look for them at the stores.
That could be said for most innovative drivers at some point
wims
Double Eagle Member
Innova Wolf is pretty flat and understable. It's a terrible disc tho, it doesn't have any glide so you have to power it up to make it fly, but its so understable that it will turn and burn if you throw it with any oomph.
@iDiscGolf
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Mvp is the exception here, they have os and us flat discs. They have flatTee discs in general. And if you like that, that's a great option.
I think it's allot easier to name very OS discs that are flat vs. US ones. I.e. Faf firebird, flick, felon, harp, justice, zone and so on.
@iDG.. Even innova and DC make quite a few flst runs of US stuff. A lot of DC seems to be on the flatter side (or was years ago) vs innova but they all have their problems.
You can find flat and domey molds of pretty much any disc.
You can find flat and domey molds of pretty much any disc.
BirdieMachine
Michael Moore Fan Club President
You don't want flat higher speed (over speed 7) understable discs anyways. I find them to be less predictable and more prone to turning and burning or not turning at all. They don't have a consistent flight in that the speed "band" at which they turn is narrower and also overturn or fade out. The dome somehow creates some function to stabilize the flight and make it more forgiving and a wider band. You also lose glide on the flat higher speed discs which could be part of the problem with the unforgiving and more erratic flight.
This is so true. The "speed band" concept is a new one to me, but I can fully relate to it.
Ofc there are exceptions to this, but usually in those cases the flatness comes with a freakishly high PLH. Much more often though the flatness does exactly what you said.
