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First form check!

Thanks man, will do next.

Looks like your rear knee is extending/ed or not bending/flexing into the sit/squat/hip hinge.

I am definitely feeling a little body confusion here and I clearly still don't quite understand how to move into and through that part of the transition!

Is rear knee just relaxing/bending hanging weight against the frame with leverage on instep?

Or better to say that the rear knee is bent while maintaining a little leverage against the ground thru the instep? Not sure the best way to say it.
 
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When I first did the doorframe drill, I recognized some of the feel from the Cobra pose in that you are putting a tension on the body and you relax into the extension but maintain an evenly balanced tension so no area of the spine (in this case) caries more stress than any other. It's easy to have micro adjustments and contractions as you even it out, but you get to a fairly relaxed point where minimal, evenly applied tension keeps your spine from folding, and you can also breath easily through many cycles and relax.

In doorframe the knee helps modulate and even that tension.

Imagine a sapling growing out of the nexus of the floor and door frame, thicker at the bottom and increasingly thin and flexible. Now grab the tip of that sapling and bring it back on itself until it meets the frame. It will by nature of it's structure distribute the tension of the flexion in proportional, balanced way.

Make your body, from your left foot to your right hand—be that sapling. Obviously you'll modulate because the lumbar is not the thoracic is not the shoulder is not the knee, but there's a place where the weight of your body will balance and rotate you fully back so you feel like one long rod that is bent over. Fully loaded.

Could just be my trip, though.
 
No, in DFD. I think it's because your rear foot is turned too backwards.

Edit - probably in throw too, I'm ignoring your throws. Do the drill.

Message received and I'm with you, thank you :)

DFD again with rear foot change after playing a bit. This time I'm still bouncy off the frame and the rear leg loading totally changed more toward the rear glute and instep when I sit/shift against the frame. The rear knee didn't want to extend while I dropped my mass toward the target and it felt like it wanted to swing forward under me if I started to release the frame.

Butt view first and then a rear of tee view in a similar stance at the end:

 
Here's a second DFD stance from today. I changed the hand height a bit and kept rear foot angle more leveraged. Has a similar feel of loading to the previous post but I feel less like I'm straining against my own body or the frame. Will sit on these for feedback, thanks!

2 views again:
 
Have only been doing DFD other than playing yesterday. Anecdotally my effortless power and accuracy at longer distance already went up.

I keep picking out little tidbits in DFD as I watch seabas or flashblast so I'll keep going. This time I tried a slightly taller narrower stance trying to keep the head leveraged inside the hip while dropping weight down and toward the plant. Focusing on the head was helping me override my strong tendency to tip rather than shift my mAss. I'm trying to find positions where I could get unstuck over the rear leg and sit and drop easily toward the target. I'm still not sure I'm getting the rear side right but I'm getting the distinct feeling of my mass against the frame opening me up and stretching me out against the frame.

 
I think I like the foot and leverage positions from post 666 the most so far. That rear foot toe angle makes the shift look more lateral with neutral feet and my stance looks more comfortable and I'm moving more like you guys overall.

I noticed that my plant leg is still tending to stride out further toward the target than seabas or flashblast. Maybe that's just a habit, maybe not. I'll play with shortening the plant stride a bit to see if I can determine if it's something on the rear side or the plant stride itself.
 
Still going. This time I started near where I was on post 666. I tried to find the best leverage rear foot angle - bringing the toe targetward without causing interior knee torque. Also worked on finding the little bounce and shift with a smaller plant stride.

 
^ That looks better, but stance is staggered open instead of closed.

Starting to rework the plant stride so it would land more inline or slightly staggered closed if I dropped off the frame. Paid more attention to how my leg swung out-in-out thru the ball under me during the stride.

 
^Dunno, looks like rear foot's toe might have creeped just past the sweet spot too backwards again. Seems to be a really fine line.
 
Working more on staggered closed. Played with frame grab height too so it was more aligned like you talk about at the peak stretch.

 
Low man wins leverage. You are barely moving.

Lower grip.

Lower butt.

Chin on shoulder.

Front foot toes inline to frame. Rear toes inline to front heel.

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Low man wins leverage. You are barely moving.

Lower grip.

Lower butt.

Chin on shoulder.

Front foot toes inline to frame. Rear toes inline to front heel.

Next one. Still playing around, more mAss is dropping at least. I noticed that your head carries so that it would land more with the front heel so I started working on that. When I'm more staggered like this, this is the rear foot angle I get. If I pull the rear toe much more toward the target I feel some interior knee torque as I shift against the frame.

 
For some reason I'm being much more patient recently. I've only been doing DFD variants daily and playing a round here and there. My throw seems to be getting drastically better on its own. I haven't tested distance but I'm routinely getting ~15-20% more at the same effort. My throws feel more and more like I'm shifting against a door frame in transition. I feel great after throwing.

For the DFD, it might help to get eyes again. This move feels much more integrated after a couple weeks and it's making my body more flexible overall. But I find it easy to find lots of little variations that feel like pretty similar leverage so maybe it's good to keep maximizing it.

Here's a bit of me messing around today from a couple angles. I drop off the frame and swing sometimes now - my arm is definitely moving faster than before. I still play with my foot angles a bit and try to find a comfortable stride forward. I think maybe somewhere around 0:35 rear view might look best from a stagger/separation POV but curious what you see.



Less throws also mean my body is finally getting time to heal properly, which it really needed.
 
It has been over 3 weeks since I posted a throw. I have only been DFDing daily and playing a few rounds.

Here are my first recorded throws since then.

What do you think? 2x standstills 2x x-step:



In any case I'm going to keep doing DFD 1/2 and add DFD3 over different weight shifts since it's helping so much.
 
Seems like you are too flat footed on everything and letting your CoG drift too much/not changing directions quicker. Need to resist more on the toes landing plantar flexed/extended, instead of letting your foot/leg collapse.

Not a fan of your backswing on xstep, you drop your arm/disc downward, instead of keeping it at the top of backswing level. Your x-step is weird, you really drop down fast/early on the left foot.

Note how your right femur/hip is angled more open than Simon's, and how much further forward his left hip is and pelvis tilted more aggressive to target. I think that kind of causes a hesitation in your giddy up.

Hershyzer part 2, Double Dragon.
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Seems like you are too flat footed on everything and letting your CoG drift too much/not changing directions quicker. Need to resist more on the toes landing plantar flexed/extended, instead of letting your foot/leg collapse.

Not a fan of your backswing on xstep, you drop your arm/disc downward, instead of keeping it at the top of backswing level. Your x-step is weird, you really drop down fast/early on the left foot.

Note how your right femur/hip is angled more open than Simon's, and how much further forward his left hip is and pelvis tilted more aggressive to target. I think that kind of causes a hesitation in your giddy up.

Hershyzer part 2, Double Dragon.
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Thanks man, makes sense. Will keep working on flat footedness.

I am going to get eyes on my Hershyzer Part 2 next. I think I'm still having trouble getting my drive leg to support me correctly in transition which is making the rest worse.
 
Seems like you are too flat footed on everything and letting your CoG drift too much/not changing directions quicker. Need to resist more on the toes landing plantar flexed/extended, instead of letting your foot/leg collapse.

Not a fan of your backswing on xstep, you drop your arm/disc downward, instead of keeping it at the top of backswing level. Your x-step is weird, you really drop down fast/early on the left foot.

Note how your right femur/hip is angled more open than Simon's, and how much further forward his left hip is and pelvis tilted more aggressive to target. I think that kind of causes a hesitation in your giddy up.

Hershyzer part 2, Double Dragon.


I've learned my lesson and want to check my Hershyzer, Double Dragon, and DFD 3 drill mechanics before I settle in for a couple weeks.

Here's a Hershyzer Part 2, starting foot on the frame then off the frame a bit. I can't quite tell if the first move/"sit" or something else is wrong, but the drive leg definitely feels uncertain. Might be rear foot angle but maybe not just that (?)



Here's a Double Dragon. Good call. My CoG moves more freely than it used to, but my balance and flexibility still need some work. My legs still feel & look pretty tight swinging forward - I've lost a lot of range of motion since my 20's there. The drive side was utter **** at first but already started to get better with repetition.



Here's me taking DFD 1 & 2 back into DFD 3. I noticed that it was easier to isolate my feet & focus on plantar flexion in this drill than the others. It's awesome feedback for the backswing too. So I will keep working on being lighter and quicker on my feet in transition into the shift w/ this.



Here's a throw. You can ignore it, I just wanted to log an immediate snapshot before I grind drills. I'm going to start spacing out throw critiques every 2-3 weeks. I was already more plantar-loaded but I can feel whatever is wonky in the drive transition causing my backswing to want to dip down. FWIW when I X-step it feels just like I'm doing DD on the plant side, but not so much on the rear side, so we'll see how this goes. Will sprinkle a little Ride the Bull in when I warm up to prime the giddyup.

 
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