brutalbrutus
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Well if the footage being used is from a major or NT event...
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As long as what they air is legal and in good taste (i.e. not porn or a snuff film or anything like that), ESPN couldn't give two ****s about who they're dealing with. As long as the check clears, they'll happily put it on their platform.
As far as this event goes, ESPN might as well be Youtube. It's a two-hour paid infomercial for the ADGT (and "disc golf") streaming on ESPN3.
Why would anyone go to the qualifier in the first place? It's not like there aren't spots available.
To play the course? If I was local I'd pay the 30 bucks and just take my time and enjoy the course. It looks very pretty.
Fair enough. Its not a bad idea. I'm actually local, and that idea has some appeal to me. But im not giving these guys a nickle.
kerplunk
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Either they need every penny they can scrape together for a respectable payout OR because when you are a scammer you think everyone else is a scammer too. Those are my hypotheses.
Good point. Plus Salient baskets are hot garbage, so those wouldn't be fun to play on.
dashiellx
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Technically it does.
However, if the person looks at the camera and just says hi or waves, that shows knowledge they are being filmed and kinda acts as a release.
I would also imagine that most sponsored players have some sort of clause in thier contracts that allow them to be film while promoting thier products and you're most likely covered by that. The PDGA I'm sure also has some language in their sanctioning agreements with the host about it as well.
The main thing that protects you is that you're not making money so it's not like suing you is worth it. Most you probably get hit with is a cease and desist order.
I don't think this is something that should keep you up at night. However, it wouldn't hurt to talk to a lawyer if you have concerns.
I was kidding about the qualifier, comparing it to the chatter about the USDGC qualifier. My guess is that any score under 100,000 gets you in, because there won't be 5 people fighting for those spots. A better speculation might be, how long will it take to accumulate a foursome?
Then again, as you and others mentioned, there could be people paying $30 to play the course, with no intent of shelling out an entry fee. I thought about it myself, though I'll be coaching baseball. The weather looks great for tomorrow.
hellbound
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that too nice. Rec player +20
cheese dog
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You know thats not bad advice, this whole thing could get very ugly. Legit disc golf companies and the pdga will be looking to slam salient and adgt for anything. IE. The question about " another disc golf tour" during the gbo interview. That loaded question was ask simply to make the adgt look like the joke that it is . Mcbeth and others laughing after the question was a big jab at the whole thing. nice play DD.
I don't think legit disc golf companies and the PDGA will be looking to slam Salient and ADGT for anything. As far as I know, the companies haven't asked their sponsored players to not play. I think they're willing to let it die on the vine.
Logical par, or ADGT-par?
hellbound
Eagle Member
I just spit out my drink reading your response! Lets go with benefit of the doubt and give it to ADGT par.
Can we start a ESPN disc golf Tour that only plays Stoney hill with a par of 48 on Diamond 67 on Quartz and 23 on Garnet????? Think that would be close to ADGT Logic
onemilemore
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Salient is paying for the airtime. ESPN has zero incentive to worry about anything else than the money in their hands.
Off topic, I'll have an article about the event up on Friday. Many different levels to the whole thing. I will say that Salient faced the tough questions, and they are also talking a big game production-wise. Get yet
opcorn: ready.
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Royalhghnss
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So I just got clarification. By playing in pdga tourneys the players give the rights to the media to use their likeness. So no worries there.
Adgt has to get permission from the pdga to use the clips if they're from an nt or major. One of the clips I gave Billy is.
Adgt has to get permission from the pdga to use the clips if they're from an nt or major. One of the clips I gave Billy is.
onemilemore
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I'd be shocked if that permission was asked for or granted.
I just spit out my drink reading your response! Lets go with benefit of the doubt and give it to ADGT par.
Can we start a ESPN disc golf Tour that only plays Stoney hill with a par of 48 on Diamond 67 on Quartz and 23 on Garnet????? Think that would be close to ADGT Logic
You may not realize it, but there actually is such a thing as ADGT par:
How to set par on a course: 1) Set by either length or 2) Avg total score by top 25% of low score finishers
The lowest "Par" between these two categories will define par for that tournament and course played allowing for Handicaps to be determined. If more than 1 course set up is played then the "Par" must be determined for each course layout.
Below 6400 ft =Par 54
6401 ft-7200 ft =Par 57
7201 ft-8500 ft =Par 60
8501 ft-9200 ft =Par 64
9201 ft+ =Par 68
The "average score...." part is a late addition, but of course invalid for a first-time event.
The distance-based pars are laughable. I have no idea what the thought process there was. Then again, I'm not a "progressive thinker".
