Kodachrome
* Ace Member *
Lol, outlaws are a decent amount wider rimmed than a destroyer when I compared. Wider looking than my giant.
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[Legacy] For the love of LEGACY
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Magicweed
Eagle Member
The Patriot is quickly becoming one of my favorite discs to throw. I've got a stiff 175g Icon and a flatter 168g Pinnacle right now and they are the bomb. I can throw the Icon flat to get some turn and a reliable fade or on hyzer so that it flips to flat and just glides for days. The Pinnacle thrown flat will just turn right out past 300', flatten out and land softly at about 350'. When I need control and placement I find myself turning to the Patriot more and more.
Afropirg
Bogey Member
in4d
*Hiding in Mike C's Closet*
In between a destroyer and boss based on PDGA measurements, i thought.
rickles
Eagle Member
Yea, can't trust the Inbounds chart sometimes...they have the outlaw listed in the same category as the Wraith and Surge...while the destroyer is a notch faster in their opinion. But it's got me wondering how i'm going to convert my bag to more Legacy. I've got outlaws, rivals, patriots, ghosts, and gauges so far. Looks like the enemy will take over my Firebird slot.
Non-Legacy left in my bag are: Magnet/Judge/Rhino/XD for putters and driving putters. Then I've got thunderbirds, a beat wraith (turnover/hyzerflip/tailwind duties), and a roadrunner. My putter lineup looks goofy but putting putters are Magnet/Judge and others are approach/driving. Would love suggestions for what to replace those with...
Scared_Discless
* Ace Member *
The Clutch and Magnet are basically fraternal twins.
rickles
Eagle Member
Thanks! What are thoughts about roadrunner=mongoose? Nemesis is shorter and might be the match, according to Inbounds, but alas I don't know if I should believe it. I'd be fine with a faster/longer roadrunner as i'm breaking in an excel patriot that should take the duties of a shorter anny disc.
rickles
Eagle Member
How about driving putter? What is a Rhino replacement? Clozer for both? Or is Clozer more similar to a Challenger? If so, I may be interested still in getting a few of both. What plastic did you use for a magnet? And what plastic did you get the clutch in, or putt with?
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
The Clutch is closer to the Judge than the Challenger. Not nearly as overstable as I was expecting it to be.
If he means Clozer, then yes. Clutch is straight to US, like a Magnet.
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
My bad. Yes, I meant the Clozer. I was expecting it to complement my Pures in the wind, but it wound up being too close.
I don't drive with the clutch but they are slightly under stable at speed with no fade. I don't find the clozer to be that much different than the clutch off the tee. Neither disc is close to a rhino.
I used pro d magnets and looked for the stiffer flatter ones. I like the clutch in protege plastic,it's stiff and grippy. I have a stack of excels from when they first came out. At that time the excels were stiff and kind of slick.
in4d
*Hiding in Mike C's Closet*
Based on what you have now,
Magnet = Clutch, however the Hunter is absolutely sick mold too, little more glide and straight as an arrow i switched over to it from the clutch for putts, although the clutch makes for the best driving/approach/mid putter of their lineup in Icon or Legend plastic.. imo, Clozer is also good driving putter in Legend.
The Phenom is a battle of the aces event disc atm so its harder to get unless you play the events but its a longer Patriot, control driver version of a patriot. Then the Enemy once they get the mold to fly how they want it will hopefully fly something like a firebird at release.
So you're super solid setup right now and my recommendations would be to try Clutch, Phenom, Enemy.. but you cant get the Phenom or Enemy yet so you'll have to wait to try those.
I used to bag a Gauge but i took it out to replace it with a Gravity Ghost that's super straight and can hold similar lines.
Right now my bag is:
4 Outlaws in Icon/Legend
4 Firebirds in Champion
1 Mongoose in Icon
4 Rivals in SpecialBlend/Icon/Pinnacle/Legend
1 Patriot in Pinnacle
4 Ghosts in Protege/Gravity
2 Hunters in Protege
I cycle most of my molds to get different flights out of the same mold. Its something new i just started doing the beginning of the year and im getting a little more consistent, i shot a 1005 rated in my last tournament and im usualy around 940-950 in the past so its working much better for me trying to keep it simple.
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in4d
*Hiding in Mike C's Closet*
I'd agree with you that the clutch/clozer are similar, although i wouldnt say much turn unless you torque them. some of my Produciton Run Blue Icon Clutch actually have some good beef to them and also the Blue Legend, like 0 turn and 2.5 fade out of the box fresh, i was surprised.
Legacy, like other companies will have inconsistency between plastics and often times colors
Yeah I'm talking a really slight turn on a 225' shot. Maybe a turn of -.25. I guess mine are pretty broken in even though I only putt with them. This stack of excels is three years old. When its really cold I'll break out a gravity clutch.
in4d
*Hiding in Mike C's Closet*
oh yea when they beat in they are like that.. had to edit my post wrong forum lol
discguy42
Double Eagle Member
Does Legacy ever put out blank discs?
I have a dye I want to do on an Icon Rival and would like to start it on a blank canvas. I emailed them 2 weeks ago about a blank and have not had a response...
I have a white one with a black stamp ( the stamp does take up a majority of the disc space ) and I am almost afraid to wipe it because I am worried it will smear or leave a black mess on my disc...
I have a dye I want to do on an Icon Rival and would like to start it on a blank canvas. I emailed them 2 weeks ago about a blank and have not had a response...
I have a white one with a black stamp ( the stamp does take up a majority of the disc space ) and I am almost afraid to wipe it because I am worried it will smear or leave a black mess on my disc...
tbird888
Salient Disc Test Team
I have an unstamped white Pinnacle Rival I got from lion. I'd imagine you could get a blank, yes.
in4d
*Hiding in Mike C's Closet*
Does Legacy ever put out blank discs?
I have a dye I want to do on an Icon Rival and would like to start it on a blank canvas. I emailed them 2 weeks ago about a blank and have not had a response...
I have a white one with a black stamp ( the stamp does take up a majority of the disc space ) and I am almost afraid to wipe it because I am worried it will smear or leave a black mess on my disc...
You'd have to contact them directly and ask for an order of blanks to dye with, i had to do that a while back but it took a while and i had to order a lot.
And yea wiping some of their non reflective stamps can leave big smears
