I got really good remarks and advice last time, thanks for that. I can now throw (rather) flat and nose more down and it has really made many a disc usable for me (for example Star AJ Teebird, Star Eagle, C-line FD3, Star Destroyer).
This time I'm looking for help with throwing putters. Long story short I currently throw neutron Proxy and zero medium Pure. While similar in hand, Proxy is much more resistant to being turned over and flight wise is my preferred disc. However I like base plastic more because of better grip (It's only an issue with snow and rain really. I don't even recall having bad release with Proxy because of grip, but I have to concentrate on it. I don't even need to wipe Pure dry to have confident grip). I tried Proxy in electron plastic, but that flies almost like Pure, no resistance to turnover. Like with fairways, not blaming it on discs, it's my current technique. I'm looking for disc that has wide margin for error while I get better.
Finally to my question, could electron Envy be what I'm looking for? Open to other suggestions as well, has to be shallow and straightflying.