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Novice grand master RHFH revelation

Grinder12000

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My age of discovery continues.

YouTube showed me the correct grip for RHBH and gained 20 feet. Still poor but getting better.

The tried RHBH and whoa!!! As far and more control. Is this normal???

I assume back hand will ultimately be more powerful right?
 
BH is typically more powerful, yes. It's also easier on the body.
 
Back hand is easier on the body? Hmmmmm. Forward hand seemed smooth as silk and so much easier and using what seemed like zero muscles . Perhaps that is a commentary on my back hand. LOL
 
Being knew I never considered getting a overly over stable disc. But now I could see getting one for FH throws. Might be useful.
 
My age of discovery continues.

YouTube showed me the correct grip for RHBH and gained 20 feet. Still poor but getting better.

The tried RHBH and whoa!!! As far and more control. Is this normal???

I assume back hand will ultimately be more powerful right?

It is much, much easier to control BH than FH. Just like it is easier to control a hyzer than an anhyzer.

The margin of error is smaller on a FH, meaning if you miss a shot by a little off your intended angle of release the result will be much worse on a FH. This does not make FH a worse choice, it just means you need to practice it more and understand the risk.

Having both BH and FH is the best option. Throwing a hyzer route every chance you get gives you the larger margin of error. You by now have noticed that your BH hyzers out to the left and your FH hyzers out to the right.

Whether you get more power BH or FH is a personal thing. Just like some people are RH or LH, golfers are naturally BH or FH dominant. For maximum distance there is also wind to consider. On any given shot you don't choose the wind, you merely adapt to what you have. Since the spin on BH and Fh is opposite, the wind will affect the shots differently.

Grips are also a personal choice. There is no universal best or worst grip, merely ones which are better or worse for you depending on the shot.

On both FH and BH the driving form you want to develop is smooth, flat and balanced, with a full pull back and a full follow through. This form will maximize your power and control and minimize your chance of injury.
 
I wasn't considering driving FH but at the moment FH is so much more dead on easy to control, more like a Frisbee in my old days 30 years ago. I could throw 200 feet standing still just with my arm.

I'm not saying one is better - I was just so surprised I had so much control and how fluid easy it was compared to backhand. I get much more spin forehand.

At least I have that in my tool box now.

I assume discs behave the same, yet backwards fore-handed?
 
Long term, FH is rougher on the body, and you're more prone to injuries. I've heard this here, and on the course. Maybe it's not true? There are certainly players who use FH extensively, or almost exclusively. These players include Jeremy Koling, Sarah Hokum, Ricky Wysocki, and the Lizard Lawyer - Mark Ellis.

Even if you just use FH for certain shots, or getting ut of trouble, it's a great weapon to have in your arsenal.
 
i can't speak for everybody but after 15 years of throwing FH I'm doing alright. i suppose the potential is there for FH to be rough on the arm and shoulder if you don't have good form but when thrown correctly it seems to me, from my own experience with both, that BH is asking more of your body. what do i know? i'm not a paid consultant and my opinion is only that.
 
I have seen a lot of older players have to stop throwing BH because of one body problem or another. BH involves the whole body a lot more than a FH. FH is predominately arm and CAN be smooth and easy if your content with 300 to 350 feet. If you have bad ankles, knees, back, hip, and so on, BH will bother you more.

OH is another story
 
The only reason my constant Forehand shot is rough on my body comes from the fact that I use a one finger grip. The finger is actually starting to twist just a little bit from the snap off the tendon. It gets a little tender when I get a really good snap on a drive. Other than that, I can't say I have any bodily issues due to throwing forehand.

I'm slowly working on bringing my BH up to snuff so I can utilize it more frequently. However, my arm and abdominal are both getting quite tender on occasion from overworking new muscles.
 
I'm normally not a guy to run with the herd...but in the age-old "forehand vs. backhand" debate, I ask myself:

If given the choice (not dictated by any particular fairway/hole), what do most Open/Advanced players throw?

At least what I've witnessed, the vast...VAST majority of the best players in our sport, if given the choice of going for distance and/or accuracy, will throw backhand.

Is that a coincidence? Is that just because most Open/Advanced players haven't yet seen the light or learned to master a forehand off the tee? :) Being sarcastic, of course. But most of the people who are rockin' a forehand off the tee tend to range from beginners to big fish in small ponds. I think it's easier to throw at first, but it can "stunt" player development if they fail to learn a good backhand off the tee because of it.

Obviously I'm biased toward a backhand throw. Nothing wrong with the occasional forehand shot here or there. But if you get the right plastic and learn the correct form/grips, there's really no need to have a forehand shot in one's game.
 
I'm normally not a guy to run with the herd...but in the age-old "forehand vs. backhand" debate, I ask myself:

If given the choice (not dictated by any particular fairway/hole), what do most Open/Advanced players throw?

At least what I've witnessed, the vast...VAST majority of the best players in our sport, if given the choice of going for distance and/or accuracy, will throw backhand.

Is that a coincidence? Is that just because most Open/Advanced players haven't yet seen the light or learned to master a forehand off the tee? :) Being sarcastic, of course. But most of the people who are rockin' a forehand off the tee tend to range from beginners to big fish in small ponds. I think it's easier to throw at first, but it can "stunt" player development if they fail to learn a good backhand off the tee because of it.

Obviously I'm biased toward a backhand throw. Nothing wrong with the occasional forehand shot here or there. But if you get the right plastic and learn the correct form/grips, there's really no need to have a forehand shot in one's game.

W R O N G .............. !!!!
you need them both ... a big forehand drive or a high forehand S bomb is the bomb .... get a forehand if u can ... they're invaluable !! ...........:thmbup:
 
One seeming advantage of forehand is the ability to visually aim, without having to face away from the target or take the eye off of the target. Dominant forehand players seem to have an advantage regarding accuracy in the woods. Successful forehand specialists tend to either be ambidextrous, or else throw backhand situationally. The purported improved accuracy in the woods may help the dominant forehand players avoid the types of lies that would force them to throw offhand or backhand.

Most dominant backhand players use forehand situationally. For example, a forehand stance may be the only option depending on where the disc comes to rest, unless the player can throw off-hand. Additionally, a dogleg to the on-hand side may have a low ceiling, or there may be wind that would prove unfavorable to a backhand released anhyzer. Again, a player who can throw offhand may be able to use that option instead of a forehand.
 
I'm normally not a guy to run with the herd...but in the age-old "forehand vs. backhand" debate, I ask myself:

If given the choice (not dictated by any particular fairway/hole), what do most Open/Advanced players throw?

At least what I've witnessed, the vast...VAST majority of the best players in our sport, if given the choice of going for distance and/or accuracy, will throw backhand.

Is that a coincidence? Is that just because most Open/Advanced players haven't yet seen the light or learned to master a forehand off the tee? :) Being sarcastic, of course. But most of the people who are rockin' a forehand off the tee tend to range from beginners to big fish in small ponds. I think it's easier to throw at first, but it can "stunt" player development if they fail to learn a good backhand off the tee because of it.

Obviously I'm biased toward a backhand throw. Nothing wrong with the occasional forehand shot here or there. But if you get the right plastic and learn the correct form/grips, there's really no need to have a forehand shot in one's game.

Just out of curiosity i looked at the top 10 guys in the world rankings to see how the fh was represented. There's wysocki at number one who obviously throws fh a lot off the tee, and then mcbeth, doss, and ullibarri who have great fhs and throw them a good bit off the tee. Even the guys like schusterick and mj, who have amazing backhands, have solid fhs and i've seen them throw fh off the tee if that's the best shot for the hole. The number of people top players without a fh shot in their game are quickly becoming the minority and the thinking demonstrated in your post is a thing of the past.
 
My age of discovery continues.

YouTube showed me the correct grip for RHBH and gained 20 feet. Still poor but getting better.

The tried RHBH and whoa!!! As far and more control. Is this normal???

I assume back hand will ultimately be more powerful right?

I never knew there was a correct grip. I imagine if it's on youtube it must be true. Look around and i'll bet they have a video on the correct putt and the correct backhand. 1000+ player ratings to everyone who goes to youtube for disc golf videos. World championships are not far behind.

A proper thrown forehand is easier on my body. I have said it and it must be true. After a long day of golf I feel that I have an advantage because I use less body motion to throw when I throw forehands. I can throw a backhand much farther but that really doesn't matter. I will give up some distance to gain accuracy. It just gives me a longer putt but i'm probably more confident on longer putts than shorter putts.

I throw a 3 finger backhand and a one finger forehand. I also think 3 chain magnets are the best. Rollers are easier than airshots. Oh the blasphemy.
 
My conundrum is I can easily, in a no wind situation, throw 200 feet easily FH, but back hand takes a little more work (at the moment - still developing those certain muscles/technique . . I hope) .

Since I want to become adequate I feel I need to work on what I'm not good at and use the FW situationally.
 
My conundrum is I can easily, in a no wind situation, throw 200 feet easily FH, but back hand takes a little more work (at the moment - still developing those certain muscles/technique . . I hope) .

Since I want to become adequate I feel I need to work on what I'm not good at and use the FW situationally.

I've been playing for a few years and i still come to the end of every practice session feeling like their aren't enough hours in the day to practice all the things i want to work on. I try to keep a bag on me that has several discs that i like to throw bh, fh, and oh and try to remind myself to enjoy the journey.
 
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