Irrelevant. Female divisions are based on one factor alone, being female. There are no 'weight classes' in disc golf and someones physical abilities beyond their sex is what makes it a competition worth having.
I never brought up weight classes. Do stay focused. We are talking about females - females like Nova and Natalie, that you're actively discriminating against because
one part of what composes them genetically expresses as more masculine, despite the fact that many other women you're okay with competing have parts that also
express as more masculine.
Once again, you're attempting to differentiate between women of different abilities when the division's eligibility is based on one factor alone. You're also basically conceding the point that the average post transition trans woman has the physical potential to the top 7.5 to 5% of female athletes which indicates an advantage.
Why isn't anyone complaining about the physical advantages of Abby Steiner or Serena Williams, both of whom express physical characteristics with more in common with men in terms of athletic performance than Natalie or Nova? I'm "conceding" nothing because nothing about what I've said has been in contrast to anything I've said before nor is it changed in response to any of what you've said. The fact is that it is
possible for a woman who has transitioned to be among the top end of female performers. Just like it is
possible for other women to be among the top end of female performers.
I am willing to have an adult conversation. I'll admit I haven't run an in-depth statistical analysis of Ryan's or Nova's performance relative to the field. However, I would wager that in the case of Nova, her chance of being a now 6x world champion is extremely improbable. Regardless of these two, it was one point among many arguing against trans women in FPO.
No, they were lies - in an effort to sensationalize the performance of trans athletes in an effort to make people fearful of their inclusion. You didn't have to do any in depth statistical analysis, and you're obfuscating that here intentionally to avoid the fact that you just plain chose to lie about the most basic facts regarding their performance.
Once again, they are either XY male or XX female at birth except for extremely debilitating exceptions. This is the simple truth you don't want to accept. Being female is the ONLY criteria to play in FPO. These 'shades of grey' in phenotype expression are genetic disorders and do not apply to trans persons.
Incorrect. Once again - your perception of gender expression as a result of genetics
is stuck in the pre-1960s. Please, join us in modernity! The shades of gray are not genetic disorders, and the shades of gray are expressed in many women you'd consider completely healthy - from Mia Hamm to Sue Bird.
There have always been 'masculine' women and 'feminine' men. This is once again irrelevant, because their genetic makeup and their ability to procreate is still firmly determined by their sex at birth. Being born a male provides a physical advantage over women even after hormone treatments.
So does being born the child of professional athletes. Your obsession with the fact of one being able to procreate as the sole determinant of one's identity as male or female is completely outdated, and outside of association with medical treatment - completely pointless.
Here's a basic question for you: is height an advantage in disc golf, all else being equal
It is, and people born with female genitalia that
you would limit your acceptance to exist along a spectrum of advantaged and disadvantaged for the purpose of athletic performance that athletes like Nova and Natalie exist well within. There are 6'4+ women, just like Nova. These women have advantages over other women. Nova has no unfair advantage, she only has the advantages she was born with as a woman, just like any other woman.